RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Food for thought. TDMAN29 wrote: RoyallyScrewed wrote: Pandora wrote: RoyallyScrewed wrote: Pandora wrote:
Presumably you are paying for the electricity to provide the free air. Just wait until we go more and more EV's and couple that with more and more windmills and solar panels and see how much the elctricity will cost then. Maybe $5 to fill your bike tire -- all in the name of saving the planet - re Greta.
Solar and wind generated energy is about the same as hydro power now. And it will only get cheaper, not more expensive. You are behind a few years Pandora.
EV's will be getting 1000 Km per charge in a few years. Fill up time will be about the same as gas. No more costly rere earth elements either. There are being phased out already.
Imagine if we had started developing green energy 50 years ago.
No RS -- I am not behind, I am ahead, so I will not be around to see how badly they screw things up before they get it right. I'm sure you will enjoy it all. Have you bought your Tesla yet? Have you got a windmill in your backyard yet? Are you encouraging the powers that be that you are willing? Have your neighbours willingly opted to pay subsidies for your Tesla and associated charging station? Hope they are happy doing that!
Also this:
First Crude Electric Vehicle Is Developed (Going green early).
Around 1832, Robert Anderson develops the first crude electric vehicle, but it wasn't until the 1870s or later that electric cars become practical. Pictured here is an electric vehicle built by an English inventor in 1884.
Oh, you want to talk about susidies? We gave $4.5 billion in tax and royalty subsidies to big oil in 2022. since 2018 we have subsidized oil pipelines by $23 billion.
There is a small subsidy on early adaptors for buying an EV (UP TO$3000). What's the subsidy on charging satations? Tesla doesn't get a dime. Home owners get a tiny amount. Keeps a few electricians busy too. Just think of the billions we will eventually save each year for a few thousand to get the ball rolling.
Come on Pandora, a windmill in my back yard? Is that what you are expecting to happen? Maybe solar panels on my roof. They are also getting a lot cheaper and more robust. We'll have to see how the current world's economic mess turns out first.
No I don't own a Tesla. I would like to though.
World runs on diesel. Pharma drugs are dependent on petro chemicals. The petro chemical industry has touched everything we use daily. Electric ford truck is a commuter vehicle at best. A friend bought one for his company and it can't be used as a work truck as he can't make a day towing a work trailer. Long ways to go.
That's like saying that a friend bought a CRT tv and it is big and heavy with poor resolution. It's not false but it's not fair either. Ford is not known for ingenuity and their pickup is about what I expected from them. They just needed to get something on the market.
Tesla sold 36 Semi's to Pepsico and they have been running the first ones for over 6 months. Mo complaints whatsoever. The cost to Pepsi was $250,000 per truck. Think about that. No problem pulling a gigantic load, so what's Fords problem? They will eventually work it out unless they drag their feet.
Again, this is Tesla's first major real world test, but you have to start somewhere. EV's WILL talke over the vehicle markets and ICE engines will become the CRT's od TV's. It's happening at breakneck speed compared to other technology development.
The number of companies developing ev motors, batteries and gharging systems is mind blowing.
The ford 150 EV uses 240v system. doubling the charging voltage halves the charging time. Some new cars are either 400v or 800v and they are already developing 1600v systems.
This is happening now. Don't discount EV's because the copy-cats to Tesla are far behind and need to catch up. The following vid gives you a clue as to where this is going.
Megawatt Charging Made Possible? Nxu Factory Tour - YouTube