Kelvin A good idea , but it won't work , there's been more than one off SH group that has tried and all failed. Besides our mutual interest in Organized crime and Oil stocks would not appeal to many. Now to appease CM so no off topic deletion , l like the Ranger deal , l believe it will bea money maker , .Now in regards to the Westside boys as you called them , they were actually called the Westies , run by Jimmy Coonan and affiliated with Big Paul Castellano before Gottis crew took him out and his underboss and driver Bilotti in front of Sparks Steakhouse on a beautiful cold NYC wintersday. They were masters at extortion mob hits and killing their own , it's why the Irish gangs are non starters. Then you mentioned Whitey Bulgar , he was a Boston crime Lord , addicted to drugs , thanks to a gov sponsored study on LSD and its effects plus he was an FBI paid stoolie who was protectected by that organization of idiots to inform on other minor criminals while continuing his reign of terror. When he went on the lam it took the FBI , incompetent as usual over 30 years to get him and that was thanks to America's most wanted show. The FBI all university graduates, sure they are. Pause what a nice lift today for all or most Oil stocks , reality setting in fundamentals declining supply , let's wait and see , more likely the big Hedge funds going long and then will go short knocking the price down. Kelvin , l don't know as a target that l will be allowed free reign like this so again l suggest the PM function as it supposedly isn't monitored. Besides as l am not that computer literate , l wouldn't have a clue in Hades on how to setup a discussion group. Sweltering out here , you must love the heat , couldn't give me a free ticket down there. By the way before locating to the Maritimes l too lived in what is referred to as the GTA and never ever intend going back come Hell or High Water.