RE:RE:RE:RE:Regardless of What The Share Value Is UpOk maybe one comment hopefully no more as i dont know if you would respond privately. Here is what i think. You have Mike talking about a 500 billion to 1 trillion market potential. LA laid out calculations to which i fully agree and have already long time ago said a fair market is no less than $2 and should be $5. If you do the math on i will even go as far as 500 million fully diluted outstanding shares at a 50 to 100 billion slice of 10 percent market share which is quite reasonable you lay out the calculations 50 billion first divide by 500 million os $100 per share for 100 billion that is $200 per share when you calculate on the basis of both $2 to $5 a share you are looking at 2 to 5 percent projection which i think is absolutely warranted on the basis of what we know so far about the tech. Now this is only my opinion if people want to wait in contracts calculate on the production rate at whatever the cost of crude is be my guess. I will tell you one thing from my experience when people speculate there are those who will wait for surety and in doing so will end up paying a way higher price that is the con but on the positve they will not lose at that price as much as potentially if someone speculates based on trajectory and if things go south that is the con but if they do not they will have massive gains. So there are pros and cons to what you are saying irrespective of you being stuck with the contracts veing tge only thing that will move this beyond a buck.
Let me tell you what is equally likely to say you may be surprised. When you see a stock sitting where this has for as long as it has and the company not claiming anything very detrimental in regards to where the test has been to date the liklihood that it will prove to be successful is fairly high. Lets look at things logically despite the pp being open still. If there were a major problem with the tech there would have been massive share dumping with the price being always being driven badly down. There never has been. Sure we had some heavy volumes but the majority holding as seen by what aboit 20 to 30k average volume on whatever the outstandimg is 116 plus million shares? That is absolutely nothing. Now so far under 6 months of continuous heating the company has not used any water which is huge and said everything is in line of expectations but is now factoring in the damage to the equipmemt how to remedy that as well as the rest of the heating frequency and intervals etc. Now as with above if people want to wait for the test to be fully complete they will end up likely paying a higher high price providing it all runs well if not no...so that is the trade off buying now at .245 and wherever the shares move to.
If you look at what the upside is to the risk reward where will someone pay to what price? Less than a buck more than a buck? Now i am a betting man in saying this given that the shares are cheap relative to risk reward and overall market potential as more people become aware through the Market Herald i am strongly lead to believe it will not only be individual retailers but also firms who deal with penniez or groups of people who can influence the share value. What i see coming will be a mixed bag meaning as more people likely enter the share value will likely rise and as people keep coming you will have more day trading and shorting taking place but will the net result be greater than .70 or a buck? Hard to say. The point is this you dont necessarily need oy the contract to drive the price what you need more than that given we dont operate in the vaccum are more people taking interest in the stock. My guess is this this will move up quite a bit and this will soon become a traders paradise with large volumes. With increading volumes the price will move quite a bit but what is hard to factor is where will the shorting start because these people will be in the mix and the net result.
So while i will not agree or disagree i am saying i would not be fixated in saying the contracts will be the only thing that will move this stock beyond .70 or so. You know what i want i want above a buck between $2 to $5 i have made no bones about this and my gut as word gets out and despite saying it will be hard to call i do strongly believe this will hit above a buck i think $2 is within the realm of possibility beyond that becomes tougher but i cant tell you where things will go for sure but i do see things getting quite interesting in that there will be people coming and we should be sering volumes at some point this year and the shares moving up nicely. Dont be surprised is what i am saying to you if we see above your .70. I have alreasy said thats a low valuation and have slready said for some time as to my opinion again it is only my opinion $2 to $5 is a fair range kerping in mind yes there is still technology risks so as to the contracts that is less important than is that the tech works as i believe it slready does in its ideal way meaning that it will not require any solvents and it will recover oil to the optimum level but i am qualifying this as saying this is providing that when the heat goes back on there are no problems and it is successful. So if there are no contracts lets until after the pilot yet if it proves itself in the ideal way you mean to say it will be a .70 stock. Dont be fixated on your contracts you cant have tgem without the tech being proven but whether they come during or after i dont know. At the end of the day though there is also a sentiment factor to account for. Lot of people are holding wanting to believe in the ideal and given that the only thing that happened is natural wear and tear in equipment there is no sense to sell which means it is tougher and tougher to get the stock cheap the floor is moving up the ceiling not as much but as new people catch wind both will move and as more people come buying at higher prices like us they will not likely sell if they are looking more long term even so they will look for their cut. We are at .245 ask if people buy they will surely look for at least .50 and those who biy .50 $1.00 so really it is who all will be coming so again dont be surprised if .70 falls i sure wont be.
Now as for myself i expect $2 to $5 this year. Will i be disappointed if it doesnt hit it? Of course. Will i complain no like i said hopefully my last post as i dont know if you would read a pm to you or if you will read this it is long. Will i say i told you so if inam right no. I only care to be right because the faster this moves up no thanks to those who have killed a fairer share value the better it is for the next raise which i suspect will come March to May. The company will likely need more money in 7 to 8 months. Even so just look at my calculations above my price points took in to account 500 million outstsnding shares so i am not at all concerned lomger term about the dilution but i did talk about cheap buyouts providing the tech is what i see and expect of it. Now if the company as looking for fresh blood that gave me new hope they will not go after a cheap buy out or so i hope at least that gives me way more confidence. Nevertheless at the end of the day all i can do is manage my shares in accordance to my needs and as i said when there is talks about buyouts and a vote i will reject anything under $40 so nothing new as to my price points and what i have said but yeah there is a storm coming. I have been in pennies that had "game changing" tech drew people in and the shares went crazy sadly management couldnt commercialize. This is quite different as the tech is being tested and is already in use upon successful testing look out again will contracts come during after or what? I dont know for sure but by logic i will say it will likely come a little before the testing is completed. If people are surpressing the share value but look to possibly have the tech my logic says they will wait towards the very end but maybe i am wrong and would it make a difference as to what their licensing price will be? I dont think so the company may have already worked that out. So really hard to say lots of factors here and whether they are relevant or not to the share value.
Anyways i strongly suspect a buck will fall this year just gut but it will largely depend if the promoting pays off because like i said it will not be just people who buy handfuls or whatever i suspect there will be brokers involved who look at pennied and maybe there will be things like Cantech coverage so again dont see the contract as the end all and be all. The company by the way i was referring to was nexoptic that company started at .08 and exploded all the way to $3.76 but in 7 plus years made 0 revenue and had tons of hype. But people who shorted inevitably ended up being right. Nevertheless anything is possible. This is in a way different position than nexoptic. Lets see what happens when people catch wind of this although nxo was in a bull market wevare in a bearish one so it is again hard to predict but i still say 1 dollar will fall. I see a $1 to $3 for the year best estimate based on all factors. Now just an opinion take this post as only that. I am not trying to pump or bash your .70 i am only saying your perspective is too narrow there are other factors to consider. Even so you may end up being right and if yes well called if not like i said i mostly care for two reasons first in my heart of heart this isnt less than a $2 based on future projections BUT there are still technology and testing risks secondly in terms of keeping dilution down but if this takes 10 percent of a 500 billion to a trilliion market Providing what Mike said is correct with a total of 500 million shares the share value is still insane so really i am no longer concerned about this stock or what management does Providing their outside time frames to the raise and heatimg restart stands which i have 0 reason to doubt it time is money to everyone.
This is simply sharing my hope to be final thoughts..i dont have anything else really to say i will just look after my own stuff and not looking to say much other than be smart in how you manage your shares and good luck to everyone. Time will tell all things i personally see a storm coming. I think people will get ahold of this and the reaction may be a bit stalled because tons of stocks that have been hamared and still havent moved much but there is a huge potential here not to mention that the company is testing for and directly with multibillion dollar generating companies which gives lot of credibility and clout as to its penny status.
These are again my opinions and thoughts only. I am not saying people should or should not buy but simply saying how beyond a contract that stock prices can and do move. Is or are those stocks worth "gambling on" for their current trading value? Who will come in terms of "market makers" as well as any promotions coverage like Cantech newsletters i strongly believe that is coming at some point as i dont recall if it already had but this will generate buzz however when it starts to hit i dont exactly know the company only seemed to promote to investors recently although the conferences were too depending on how many were actually investors i cant speak to that as i suspect that a lot of people were businesses so we know business to business. Lets see as i said where things go but near term i am not concerned anymore about price the company did what it needed to and now needs to fulfiil the time frames. As they do more confidrnce and likely reflected in sp.
Thats it hopefully my final thoughts and post here and ideally on the boards. Its been a slice...good luck.all.