How much did Ron and Gucharn...bilk investors for over their years with Zinc8 not once ever producing any evidence of having a real working product or anything real at all? Crooks and liars. As I warned, this was not Ron's first rodeo as he more or less did the same thing in his previous BS role at American Vanadium. I am guessing at his age he has now cheated investors out of enough of their investment dollars to live really comfortable off of your money until he departs this planet. Disgusting!