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Suncor Energy Inc T.SU

Alternate Symbol(s):  SU

Suncor Energy Inc. is a Canada-based integrated energy company. The Company's segments include Oil Sands, Exploration and Production (E&P), and Refining and Marketing. Its operations include oil sands development, production and upgrading; offshore oil production; petroleum refining in Canada and the United States; and the Company’s Petro-Canada retail and wholesale distribution networks (including Canada’s Electric Highway, a coast-to-coast network of fast-charging electric vehicle (EV) stations). The Company is developing petroleum resources while advancing the transition to a lower-emissions future through investments in lower-emissions intensity power, renewable feedstock fuels and projects targeting emissions intensity. The Company also conducts energy trading activities focused primarily on the marketing and trading of crude oil, natural gas, byproducts, refined products and power. It also wholly owns the Fort Hills Project, which is located in Alberta's Athabasca region.


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Comment by mrbbon Nov 28, 2023 3:32pm
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Post# 35757058

RE:RE:Something to think about

RE:RE:Something to think abouti didn't reply to Robin because he never debated my posting.
He shows up and rant on oil on oil down days, a drive by shooter
Cybertruck has ~ 1.25 million preorder, if all those are real, then at 250k unit/year it would take
5 years just to fill the preorder. Only people with big enough garage to fit in a cybertruck, and those people are consider semi wealthy to have a nice house with decent size garage. Oh cybertruck can be parked outside one could say but how do owners home charge it? However, i think  most of the preorder are from scalpers, hoping to re-sell it for more if tesla can fill their early orders. I heard tesla made a new rule forbiding owners selling their CT within a year

Tesla Cybertruck buyer agreement forbids resale for one year (motorauthority.com)

CT is a toy truck, sure there will be lot of aftermarket for add on but it will cost extra. 
In the 5 year CT filling preorders, this give 5 years of ICE truck makers to learn what the market want.

yes there will be lots of gawkers going to view the CT, just like circus has freak shows (elephant man, hairy woman, siamese twins, etc). In fact there are lot of people like to investigate ugly and grotesque objects. Master artist and engineer, Leonardo Da Vinci like studying ugly people

Study of five grotesque heads - by Leonardo da Vinci

Yes, i find statinless steel (SS) body advantageous, was waiting for other manufacturers do that for their ICE truck too. SS body on ICE truck is highly do-able. It just come down to when the ICE makers decide to offer such option.   SS can't be form curve easily so a SS truck would look less appealing than from conventional material design. I also said before it's hard to ramp up CT due to its SS exoskeleton

As Motorius reminds us, back in 1936 and again in 1960 and 1967, Ford teamed up with Allegheny Ludlum Steel to produce 11 stainless steel classic cars. More recently, the 1980s saw the hype around the DeLorean DMC-12, which featured prominently in the movie Back to the Future

So why have stainless steel vehicles been so few and far between overall? It primarily comes down to two main problems: production difficulties and safety issues. 

As far as producing vehicles with stainless steel, the challenges for manufacturers are numerous. Wisconsin Metal Tech explains that stainless steel is expensive and hard to form into different shapes. It’s also just hard in general, which has been known to damage the dies used in production and add additional expenses to manufacturers’ production costs. The material also doesn’t look all that appealing unless treated or painted correctly, which is its own type of challenge unto itself.

However, the safety concerns inherent in these vehicles are even more important than the production challenges. Stainless steel is too rigid to allow for the standard crumple zones that we rely on in front- and rear-end collisions. This means that rather than the vehicle absorbing the impact of the crash, the bodies of the drivers and passengers will be left to do that job–with potentially deadly results. Additionally, let’s also not forget that the material’s enormous weight makes vehicles more of a hazard on the road.





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