RE:RE:RE:Tve/AthA very wise guy named BUFFET once chimed if you dont want to own a company for 10 years then dont bother to invest . TVE does indeed have a great deal of debt, but lets settle down and quit chasing Pennies when there are dollars to be made. For what its worth as I stated in an earlier post I too am still underwater and frustrated as you all are. Games being played here without a doubt. GLTA.