Banshee I did not get a chance to read either of your two posts , but l did see one but l read an older post by Westcoast first and then when l went back yours was gonzo.I and other Conservatives and patch lovers know exactly where you are coming from as we have all experienced this rubbish judging for way longer than you have.That why l am posting this as a new post and not a reply as your third post will probably be removed by those self appointed Trolls in Power.This as well ,so to make them look as dishonest as they are l am now referring to both Veren and all oil patch stocks out there.Dispite oil getting close to $80 as Marty predicted , just about every oil stock is down and by an average , my guess 10% or more from the SPs last time oil hit $80.Biden , Trudy and all those lefties probably cracked open a beer , or in case of Mr Sophisticated a magnum of Dom Perignon.