RE:So!Giveme is correct. Too many on here just couldn't face the reality of the dire situation. Excuse after excuse was made as to why VG were not at fault, how they had done great things to mitigate the CATASTROPHE...yes HB, I know it really sticks in your craw to admit this was a CATASTROPHIC event which has now directly led to the demise of VG...I would call that the ultimate CATASTROPHE. Even as each new bad news was revealed the desperate just doubled down, again and again, I get it... until we've now reached the point where they are clutching at the final straw of lawyers saving the day for them. There is however good news, nothing to do with VG though...and that is, gold and silver are going many multiples higher in the next 2 or 3 years, yes I know that's been said many times before...but the inevitable, unavoidable debt end game is finally near, and of course the very dangerous geopolitical situation...if you invest with deep due diligence...(avoiding like the plague single asset mines) in the PM sector in physical or shares you will be greatly rewarded. Bitcoin could go either way, I just offloaded half my bitcoin, for a huge profit, and will keep the other half, I wouldn't risk buying anymore, for me at these prices around 20 times gold is just too high, it could go 'to da moon'..or crash.Just my opinion, though that personal opinion has actually served me very very well overall. I suspect that when institutional investors finally pile into the PM sector...and they will, central banks have already started seriously accumulating, they won't be initially interested in the juniors, I think they will go for the big boys. So even though many on here have taken a beating, there is still an opportunity to retrieve the situation. Again just my opinion. With that I am now retiring from posting on this board... some will be very pleased to hear. Bye and good luck...nincompoop signing off from the new communist state of Britain...just like Canada...but incredibly...even worse.