I am wonderingI am wondering how much blackberry cybersecurity and qnx would be worth, leave aside patents income, and ivy revenue and income. Google made a bid for 23 billion for wiz, the revenue of bb and wiz are almost same, however wiz is growing at an exponential pase, it was valued by google 65 times its sale, bb would after this results would be also agrowing arr company, just say we value half of what google bid for biz, its whopping 11 billion dollars, and qnx is easlly worth 5 billion dollars as similiar company was sold at around 4 billion dollars in the past, and its going to have a bimmion dollar royalty backlog by this year end that put the valuation to 16 billion that is 10 times less than its quoted today. And ivy ina year or two would be much more than the combined two, Future is very bright going forward after the dismal results are announce in september.