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Bombardier Inc. T.BBD.A

Alternate Symbol(s):  BDRPF | T.BBD.PR.B | BDRXF | T.BBD.PR.C | T.BBD.PR.D | BOMBF | BDRAF | T.BBD.B | BDRBF

Bombardier Inc. is a Canada-based manufacturer of business aircraft with a global network of service centers. The Company is focused on designing, manufacturing and servicing business jets. The Company has a worldwide fleet of more than 5,000 aircraft in service with a variety of multinational corporations, charter and fractional ownership providers, governments and private individuals. It operates aerostructure, assembly and completion facilities in Canada, the United States and Mexico. Its robust customer support network services the Learjet, Challenger and Global families of aircraft, and includes facilities in strategic locations in the United States and Canada, as well as in the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Switzerland, Austria, the United Arab Emirates, Singapore, China and Australia. The Company's jets include Challenger 350, Challenger 3500, Challenger 650, Global 5500, Global 6500, Global 7500 and Global 8000.


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Comment by BBDB859on Oct 20, 2024 12:06pm
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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Q3/24 Revs

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Q3/24 Revs Appearantly the Belfast employees are paid a lot cheaper than the Canadian ones are too. Even so, it maybe a good idea to repatriate the facility here. But the problem is, is that we could lose some of the tech part of it, as the Irish employees are probably the old Shorts Brothers employees with a multitude of technical talent that will be lost if we can't take them to the US or bring them here to Canada. Assuming they want to come over to this side of the pond.

As for putting the whole +FCF on the LTD? This idea of acquiring the Belfast facility has recently made management change what  the amount of LTD repayment would be, going down from Q1/24 to Q2/24 recently on the calls. I suppose they don't have a problem with Cash on hand for OE and therefore could put all the +FCF on the debt. But they also have asperations of expanding and shite like Belfast happens too. So you want some extra cash on hand. Then there is even the Tempo reminder that BJ industry demand, could slow down. So having cash on hand is a great idea.


Letsmakemoredol wrote: 859, the only thing I don't know about Bombardier really as I had mentioned yearlier yesterday was the current state of the Belfast facility.  The only info I have, which is all conjecture, is that is old, outdated, very inefficient and is a money pit.  I have no idea the size of the Belfast factory either.  I have no idea about the detailed manufacture of fueselages and wings so could you just buy a similar warehouse, new machinery and open a plant in Witchita, Toronto, or elsewhere in North America or does it need to be a new facility built from the ground up?  There seems to be no shortage of workers in the aerospace sector with Boeing laying off 17,000 workers and Airbus laying off 2500 very recently.  No idea what if these laid off workers could build the parts currently made at Belfast in North America?  I trust Eric, Bart and others are exploring all these options.  I expect there to be an update on Belfast on Nov 7th.  Thank you for your info on Belfast.  At this time as an investor I do question why we would want it unless someone was willing to give it to BBD along with a huge cash payment.

As for FCF ultimately in the end we are talking about the same thing and the net result is the same give or take, we are just getting there by different methods.  In my head I don't expect all FCF to be paid on LTD, I simply look at the net debt numbers and excluding Belfast I expect net debt to be <3.0B by the end of 2025FY


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