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Bombardier Inc. T.BBD.A

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Bombardier Inc. is a Canada-based manufacturer of business aircraft with a global network of service centers. The Company is focused on designing, manufacturing and servicing business jets. The Company has a worldwide fleet of more than 5,000 aircraft in service with a variety of multinational corporations, charter and fractional ownership providers, governments and private individuals. It operates aerostructure, assembly and completion facilities in Canada, the United States and Mexico. Its robust customer support network services the Learjet, Challenger and Global families of aircraft, and includes facilities in strategic locations in the United States and Canada, as well as in the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Switzerland, Austria, the United Arab Emirates, Singapore, China and Australia. The Company's jets include Challenger 350, Challenger 3500, Challenger 650, Global 5500, Global 6500, Global 7500 and Global 8000.


TSX:BBD.A - Post by User

Comment by BBDB859on Dec 11, 2024 9:33am
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Post# 36356324

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:$300M LTD repayment

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:$300M LTD repaymentHey Lets.

I'm sorry you took it as an insult.

I just wanted to point out something I noticed to you. To help you. It's not often that someone on this board dissects your #'s, and comments about clarity, and showing your work, on your posts. I don't even do that. Searching for PERFECTION in some things is just unrealistic. For example, even talking about BoC to you yesterday was tiring. These are time consuming posts. And are draining to check & double check for correctness. People differ in opinions and #'s. Agree to disagree sometimes, and move on. People try to do their best with the time they have here. The ChatGPT comment on $500/share SP was out there from that poster, for todays #. But who's to say that even there, it may happen someday in the future?

The Arithmomania comment of mine was with respect to the #'s we do. YES there is perfection in math. Yes numbers make perfect sense. ON SOME OCCASIONS. There are times that the variables are so many that, that makes it impossible to get the EXACT #. The perfect example with our case is, the EBITDA, FCF, CASH USAGE for PARTS, # of DELIVERIES, etc, at any given Quarter of Bombardiers Financials. Even Bombardier gives a GUIDENCE RANGE for their Financials, because they don't know the exact #, because of the variables for each quarter.

So maybe just maybe, you wanna change your tune on the financial perfection that you're searching for, in Financials. Even their own Guidence could be off with just one variable change in the Quarter. So let's agree to just give eachother what our #'s are and move on. Then wait for the actual #'s. I don't need perfection here. Neither the comments that follow after each post. Perfection just can't be found. Over-assesssment of the #'s isn't required here. We're only just guessing, and so is the company itself and Lets move on. Cheers




Letsmakemoredol wrote:
BBDB859 wrote:
 Hey Lets, YMMV.

Just FYI. I now know, that you have Arithmomania. I deduced that by reading all your post responses to my numbers, and even some of your responses to other posters posts. I don't mean it as an insult btw. I find it useless to be precise. Like I said in one of my posts the other day. If I'm close of within $50M with my guess? Then I think it's a pretty good guess. Tomayto Tomahto


Letsmakemoredol wrote:
BBDB859 wrote: They'll make close $1B for Q4. $700M of that, will go repay their up-fronting of their inventory for the all of 2024. And $300m will be their +FCF. Which I presume they put all of it, or $200M of it, on the LTD in spring of 2025.




Letsmakemoredol wrote: very possible, but it also could be coming in from Q4 FCF.  To meet 2024 guidance they have to deliver +682M to +982M this quarter.  They did +$869M in Q4/23 so easily doable




Well they only used 582M in the first 9 months of this year and considering 2025 deliveries will be roughly equal to 2024 (could be negligibly smaller)  it won't be 700M as you state

Fcf for 2025 is supposed to be 900 to 1000M compared to 100-400M for 2024 so I'm also expecting each quarter to be better next year than this year.




859, it's a discussion board so guess what things get discussed.  Financial predictions are an educated guess yes but precision matters...unless you want to be part of the $500 PT club using chatGPT for your analysis?  Analysts use precision in their calculations.

...and calling me arithmomania I took as an insult.  Like your insulting comment to francophones last week please keep those comments to yourself.  Thank you


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