RE: Down but not out!You are correct boy plunger when you say current and past management cannot be trusted. As far as sales go you are somewhat misguided. When ATF's products have been compared to others buy potential customers ATF has usually won out. Unfortunately until we have effective legislation forcing a substantial reduction in emmisions there is not alot of incentive for company's to do anything. It certainly doesn't help treating your customers with an iron fist either.