RE: heading to 2 then 2.5 last year 2003 was a weeker then expected year for the company but if you look at 2002 when market conditions were3 decent for then they faired really well almost turned a profit keep in mind when you look at earns per share for 2002 they was way less share i would say that a loss of one to 3 cents a share would send this thing to about 6-7 cents a breaks even you might just see this thing as high as 10 cents