RE: fdxflyboyKidl2.... of course helping is much more productive than getting mad. And I am not one of the ones getting mad, just frustrated. Childish or not, I don't defend my buddies attitude or their malicious intents. I am just stating their position and feelings. They want to sink the stock because of what they feel has been a long, drawn out, non-revenue producing, promises promises, delay after delay, insider only benefing, stock scheme.... not my feelings at all. I have asked them individually to speak with Steve but they choose not to... I feel that they don't want to drink the cool-aid and stay objective. Right or wrong thats how they feel. Frankly, without speaking to Steve, I don't blame them. Sometimes they make me wonder if I have been drinking cool-aid for 13 years. They are not bad people and they wouldn't want to finacially hurt anybody on board here, they just want to put the stock out of its misery. It is childish and immature I agree. The only reason they have not yet is because I keep promising AND I tell them there are many lives that have put reitrement monies and livelyhoods behind this company. I like Steve alot and believe in him. He has been more honest than I think I have ever seen any CEO be. I have shared my friends feelings with Steve and HE said if they do this it would end the company. Most of the guys on this board have great ideas and I respect, I don't want this to happen. We need these creative ideas put to work. I will work on the boys, but if you see 10,000 shares up for sale on the bid every hour for weeks, don't say I didn't warn you. I will try to keep them from doing the childish thing but 2005 will be my last extension plea to them.