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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Advanced Explorations Inc. ADEXF

"Advanced Explorations Inc is a development stage company. It is engaged in the acquisition, exploration and development of properties within the resource sector."

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Advanced Explorations Inc. > Tag Along Right
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Post by Greenandgold. on Jan 31, 2012 4:26pm

Tag Along Right

Zedman was right, no deal can happen with XinXing until Roche Bay plc is dealt with. From AXI's 2009 agreement with Roche Bay plc, filed on SEDAR in August 2009:

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Section 6.2 Tag Along Right

"If AEI has not exercised the Property Earn In option or the Buy-Out Option or the Half Buy-Out Option, and should AEI wish to sell, transfer or assign its entire interest in the Mining Property to a non-affiliated third party, Roche Bay Canada shall have the right to require such third party, concurrently with the completion of the transaction, to purchase from Roche Bay Canada its interest in the Mining Property for a price equivalent to the Buy-Out Option payment."

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AXI hasn't exercised the earn-in or buy out options to gain 100% ownership of the Roche Bay property. They still only own 49.9% of the Roche Bay property, while Roche Bay plc owns 50.1%. Therefore, if XinXing wanted to "sell, transfer or assign its entire interest" in the Roche Bay property to XinXing, then Roche Bay plc would have the right to have its 50.1% interest bought out for $35 million.

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AXI tried to buy out Roche Bay plc but failed last year. Now it's taking the longer route, taking a $5 million loan from XinXing, to complete its feasibility study and earn 75% of the project. Then a positive production decision will give AXI 100% of Roche Bay property, thus allowing them to freely create a joint venture with XinXing. But before those two things happen it is impossible for a deal to happen between AXI and XinXing.

Comment by VENMan on Jan 31, 2012 4:42pm
GreenandGO you're a tag along, takes one to know one. I think there is little to know risk jumping in at 25 cents right now and with a deal we move higher.
Comment by zedman4 on Jan 31, 2012 9:08pm
Is the 2009 Roche Bay agreement still current, or have there been modifications or amendments made since then? In other words "How much on paper; % wise  does AEI cur- rently have in all the iron ore claims of the A,B,C and Tucktu properties? This is getting confusing.....
Comment by VENMan on Jan 31, 2012 9:29pm
I think the 2009 Roche Bay agreement is now current because in August 2011 no $22 Million was given to Roche Bay lowering the Royalty to 1.85%. As of right now i think the press release from April 2009 stands. The thing is AXI could always work a deal with Roche Bay to reduce the royalty say a few years from now like they tried in Aug 2011. For now the 2009 press release stands ...more  
Comment by zedman4 on Jan 31, 2012 9:45pm
Okay I undestand what AEi has to pay to get 100% of the mineral lease. So what % is AEI holding at the moment?
Comment by VENMan on Jan 31, 2012 10:29pm
I believe they hold 100% they made all payments to date in order to do so. Call the company if you to.
Comment by abdikens on Jan 31, 2012 10:46pm
I jumped in again this morning. Not to the extent in numbers that other members of this board hold, but it is what the purse will allow. I still have faith.
Comment by Greenandgold. on Feb 01, 2012 10:23am
The 2009 Agreement applies. On paper, AEI owns 49.1% of Roche Bay and of Tuktu. They have 2 options to earn 100%: A) produce a feasibility study and positive production decision for each of the properties; B) Buy out Roche Bay plc's 50.1% share with a $35 million payment. * Before they do either of these steps, by contract it is impossible for AEI to convey its interest in Roche Bay to ...more  
Comment by rpdeluca on Feb 01, 2012 10:30am
You are truly misinformed.
Comment by Greenandgold. on Feb 01, 2012 10:33am
AEI obviously wanted to sign the JV deal with XinXing in early 2011, way before the definitive feasibility study was to be produced. Perhaps XinXing wanted the same thing. Therefore they made several attempts to negotiate a buy-out with Roche Bay plc last year. This is the big hold up. AEI didn't have access to $22 million in cash for the buyout, and XinXing didn& ...more  
Comment by Greenandgold. on Feb 01, 2012 10:40am
Give me any evidence that AEI owns more than 49.9% of Roche Bay. Their earn-in status is specified by the 2009 contract: A) They earned 49.9% with the filing of the preliminary economic assessment (completed) B) They will earn a 75% interest with the filing of a feasibility study (Not completed) C) They will earn 100% interest with a positive production decision. (Not completed) * Go to Roche Bay ...more  
Comment by VENMan on Feb 01, 2012 10:42am
Nope GreenandGo thats wrong! The $35 million applies only to reducing royalties from 6% to 3% and AXI owns 100% of Roche Bay and Tuktu. Oh and ADI only owns 40% of their property, so i would reduce that 1% value for market cap accordingly, lol. have a good day!
Comment by Greenandgold. on Feb 01, 2012 10:50am
Yes, you fool, that's what Gingerich and company want you to believe. They never mention anywhere on the website that they don't own a majority interest in Roche Bay. Did you read the Roche Bay plc annual report? They own 50.1% of Roche Bay. There's no controvery about that fact: * Roche Bay currently owns 50.1% of the joint venture with AXI, but in April granted AXI a new option ...more  
Comment by rpdeluca on Feb 01, 2012 12:14pm
I cannot believe the stupidity that I read on this board...it is truly a joke. Here it is very simple.... There are milestones to meet and with each milestone AXI increases their interestin the RB/Tuktu properties..there are two triggers left...one is the completion of the FS (increases to 75%) and the other is a go forward production decision on the property (increases it to 100%)... THERE IS ...more  
Comment by VENMan on Feb 01, 2012 12:25pm
GreenandGO call the company goof with no shares
Comment by zedman4 on Feb 01, 2012 12:52pm
I just came of the Roche Bay plc web site and what g&go says is correct, that Roche Bay plc owns 49% of the Roche Bay deposite but no mention of the Tucktu. Therefore I ques- tion the date of when the website was last up-dated. On the other hand when logging on to recent news; the Roche Bay plc site piggy backs off AIE' latest nr's including jan 2012. Go figure; check it out yourselfs, ...more  
Comment by VENMan on Feb 01, 2012 1:12pm
That web-page also states the resource as only 358 million tonnes. Do you want to believe that as well. Call AXI and get the facts otherwise you guys deserve to lose all your money. Sell all your shares right now at 25 cents and move on if you think they only own 49%. When you find out from AXI that you guys are dead wrong you should post the correct information to make up for the misinformed ...more  
Comment by Greenandgold. on Feb 01, 2012 1:16pm
RPDeluca (and MacMurray in the past) confirm that AXI does indeed currently own 49.9% of Roche Bay. Is that good enough for you Venman? Or will you continue with your idiotic belief that AEI already owns 100% of Roche Bay? * Thanks Deluca, done with that silly issue! Now, the problem with the earn-in options you described is this: according to the 2009 contract with Roche Bay plc, AEI ...more  
Comment by VENMan on Feb 01, 2012 1:22pm
Sorry, GreenandGo unlike you i called the company and got the facts. Why don't you just call the company?
Comment by VENMan on Feb 01, 2012 1:31pm
Here is the other thing GreenandGo i wish you had it right. See if the own 49% and the stock trades at 25 cents when they take ownership of the other 51% the stock would pop quickly to over 50 cents. It sucks that you are wrong about this. If you thought you had it right you should be buying be certain to double your money on news that a completed DFS has come out and the market has to value AXI ...more  
Comment by VENMan on Feb 01, 2012 1:36pm
Sorry more to the point GreenandGO, if you thought AXI only held 49% of the property and the stock trades at 25 cents, what do you logically thing would happen to the share price when they take ownership of the other 51%? I want some of whatever it is you're smokin Guy!  
Comment by abdikens on Feb 02, 2012 1:45am
I'm not up on the tech talk, does LOL mean lots of luck, or laughing out loud? The folks on this board keep manage to keep me on my feet, and learn. Which is good for an old brain, keeps the dementia away. Thanks to all. (there must be a short form for that)
Comment by abdikens on Feb 02, 2012 1:47am
Notice how many times I repeated KEEP?
Comment by rpdeluca on Feb 02, 2012 10:52am
You bet...laughing out loud :)
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