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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Alaris Royalty Corp ALARF

"Alaris Royalty Corp is engaged in investing in operating entities. Its operations consist primarily of investments in private operating entities, typically in the form of preferred limited partnership interests, preferred interest in limited liability corporations in the United States, loans receivable, or long-term license and royalty arrangements."

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Alaris Royalty Corp > Parameters to assess Alaris...(add or eliminate )
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Post by bbzzzz on Nov 12, 2017 12:19pm

Parameters to assess Alaris...(add or eliminate )

Simply put, the ability to maintain current investments and add to solid new investment partners is really the underlining question looking into the future.

Can management execute or is it time to change strategy? One more default can send this equity into a real nose dive and the possibilities of that are ____ % - check your crystal ball !

 What happened to the possibility of a dividend increase?

Is there really a chance to collect either partially or whole on the SM write off considering they are a going concern with 800 employees with a backlog of business?? Was this properly communicated to the investor community? Please read the analyst conference call ( at Seeking Alpha or website).
My impression was that SM is now written off the books but not forgotten. It is being followed up on with the intention to collect in the near future as business conditions change . 
 I believe mgt. could have communicated this in a more investor friendly manner so that market meltdown would not occur. 
 Just some of my thoughts as I ponder to add or eliminate to this position in my portfolio.

 Thanks for allowing me to share my thoughts !
Tedz
Comment by gvixid on Nov 12, 2017 1:01pm
Ted's, I too got the impression that mngt intends on trying to recoup some of the 50M from SM. And so I find it hard to understand why they wrote off the entire amount now. I'm not into conspiracy theories, but it does feel like manipulation. As if they wanted to knock the price down rapidly to attract new investors or buy more themselves.
Comment by bbzzzz on Nov 12, 2017 2:29pm
Yes, this should be a good question to address to mgt.  Could they have handled the write off of SM in more investor friendly manner??
Comment by BSdetector2016 on Nov 12, 2017 4:02pm
I think they wanted to deliver the turd before tax-loss gets into full swing. That way they can start 2018 fresh, or with less stink.
Comment by maypeters on Nov 13, 2017 12:46pm
Management has always been aggressive about writing off losses from partners. Throw in the pretty big taxable gains from Sequel redemption and it was pretty much a given that they would write off SM completely. Deferral of taxes would be my first educated guess.
Comment by griffp on Nov 13, 2017 8:51pm
An aggresive write off should be seen as is positive ?? Hmmmm? Granted, the tax advantage from the recent capital gain was crystalized but writing off 1 out of 7 of any key portfolio leaves me less really worried..  In reality, this decision was the culmination of a serious financial blunder by the senior administrative and financial leadership.   I invested 5% of my initial ...more  
Comment by bbzzzz on Nov 14, 2017 3:00pm
Ok, with all the negative comments can one assume everyone has maximized their capital loss on AD for the year or .....is this the contrarian signal to add!!  Can mgt.execute with no further problems and add new investments going forward? There has been insider buying by Mr.King , is this a buying sign? Can we use the "buy when there is blood in the streets " analogy here ...more  
Comment by Bailey88 on Nov 14, 2017 5:33pm
I suspect Mr King will have even more opportunities to do some more insider buying when he is forced to cut the dividend. I don't want to be flippant because this is serious for many of us who have depended on Alaris for income, but  I can't see how the cash flow of the remaining investments will be able to cover the dividend going forward. Also Alaris is in no position to buy back ...more  
Comment by maypeters on Nov 14, 2017 6:24pm
I did not understand what you wanted to say. Are you saying that the writeoff will lead to them not being able to cover their dividends ?  It obviously hurts when the deal does not work out as expected but not sure what you are trying to say by saying that you cannot see how the cash flow for the remaining iinvestments will be able to cover the dividend going forward.  I would highly ...more  
Comment by Bailey88 on Nov 14, 2017 10:40pm
I made my comments with direct reference to the Q3 financial statements and conference call.  As stated in the conference call,  I heard that the dividend will not be cut Q4....... IF new deals are made going forward.  Even with new investments, it will take time for any investments to generate cash flow.  I don't have much control over the future but the AD Q3 report shows ...more  
Comment by jjeerryy on Nov 15, 2017 10:21am
Bailey88, the markets can be tough at times. Then we come in here and post to people who seem to not be able to read the written word.    Stick to your guns, you seem to have things under control at this time!
Comment by babedinkleman on Nov 15, 2017 5:47pm
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Comment by nedstar71 on Nov 15, 2017 9:16pm
Bailey's handle created just two days ago to post on this board alone and coincidentally posts complete nonsense and jerry applauds him. Um yeah.
Comment by nedstar71 on Nov 15, 2017 9:47pm
And I might add, when newly created posters show up talking misleading nonsense, it's often a sign that the bottom is near or already in. I remember with DIV when it was in th $2 range all sorts of new posters were popping out of the woodwork trying to create panic and fear with nonsense and incorrect info. It worked on some who panicked and sold, and for some of us it allowed us to add to ...more  
Comment by maypeters on Nov 15, 2017 11:00am
I would recommend to stop using Morningstar for Canadian stocks and start using SEDAR to go through the financials. The payout ratio is below 100% even with existing cash flow. New investments and the resets starting Jan 1, 2018 of course help. Once the deal is done the cash flow starts right away and does not take time. It may take time to complete the due diligence and win the deals but once ...more  
Comment by bbzzzz on Nov 15, 2017 11:25am
Maypeters, I believe you are on the correct side of the information derived from the conference call as well as the financials. I pressume everyone makes up their mind to sell or buy based on their own information and their ability to absorb the information presented to them as well as the source of that info. The bottom will be hit once all those that wish to sell will have sold . I pressume ...more  
Comment by TickerTwit on Nov 15, 2017 6:49pm
I've found that some of Morningstar's material isn't 'analysis', it's just formulaic response, not necessarily appropriate for the sector in question. In this case, it might be that they calculated payout ratio on an earnings basis rather than on a distributable-cash basis. The result can be dramatically different. I haven't gotten to AD's recent numbers yet, just ...more  
Comment by TickerTwit on Nov 16, 2017 12:19am
I looked at AD's numbers for the past four quarters. (1) On an earnings basis, the approximate TTM payout ratio using a short-cut formula is 261%. So 270% is not unrealistic. I'm satisfied now that I know where Morningstar got its number: the earnings-based payout ratio, PR=[Div/E]. The weakness of this formula is that a single large non-cash item can render it nonsensical. (2) Dropping ...more  
Comment by jjeerryy on Nov 16, 2017 10:19am
The highlighted prargraph below tells it all and gets to a very important point. Thank you.
Comment by westcoast1000 on Nov 17, 2017 3:51pm
Thanks for that informative comment, TT.
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