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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Apollo Healthcare Corp Warrants (03/01/2022) APHWF

Based in Ontario Canada the Apollo Healthcare Corp Apollo is one of the largest private label personal care product manufacturers in North America developing and manufacturing retailer branded and private label products for major North American retailers. Apollos products are sold in tens of thousands of stores across North America and its customer base spans across major North American... see more

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Apollo Healthcare Corp Warrants (03/01/2022) > Bad time for release.....but not all negative
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Post by Jimmycash on Aug 14, 2021 10:16am

Bad time for release.....but not all negative

I agree, reporting the quarterly report on a Friday at 5pm is about as juvenile as you can get. Its like they don't want their parents to know they recieved bad marks. They did forcast that things were settling down bs wise, so no surprise there and mention was made on the release of an accelleration going into 2022, so thats a positive as well. As far as the debt, if you look at page 5 on their financial results on sedar you will see current debt stated as - (nil). Line 10 was for redemption of class B shares. So, very un proffessional but indeed debt free and forcast of an uptick. My quick math on their 10M adjusted earmnings going forward that would value them a 10 times yearly (40M) puts them at a 400M valuation right here (north of $5 p/s.) and things to get better.
Comment by JPD123 on Aug 14, 2021 6:34pm
I think from a medicine prespective, although in April/May COVID looks like it was settling down, it is very clear now that COVID will be going around for years to come seeing that even when US essentially has unlimited vaccines now for it's population, there is simply a large population that will refuse the vaccine, letting the virus keep mutating and generating more varients. In addition ...more  
Comment by zalmonella on Aug 16, 2021 11:34am
I agree, reporting the quarterly report on a Friday at 5pm is about as juvenile as you can get. Its like they don't want their parents to know they recieved bad marks. They did forcast that things were settling down bs wise, so no surprise there and mention was made on the release of an accelleration going into 2022, so thats a positive as well. You're right on the debt - I had too ...more  
Comment by cpeczek on Aug 16, 2021 12:51pm
What is motivating you to stick around? Why not sell and move on to a more growth oriented stock? This is going to be a value play all the way through. I doubt they will ever sell as much as they did during the lockdown, its just not feasible.
Comment by FinnishFlash8 on Aug 16, 2021 2:14pm
Because I can buy more growth oriented stocks without selling my value play. I agree, it's unlikely we'll see the sales numbers we saw last year and in Q1 this year (without any aqcuisitions) but that doesn't matter. Even if AHC does that 40 something million revenues per quarter, now without the debt burden, I'm happy to hold my shares and wait for mean reversion.
Comment by cpeczek on Aug 16, 2021 2:32pm
i agree with you, held in a diversified portfolio it makes sense if you have time to wait. The numbers are not as bad as the share price. The question was more directed at the other poster.
Comment by zalmonella on Aug 17, 2021 2:14am
What is motivating you to stick around? Why not sell and move on to a more growth oriented stock? This is going to be a value play all the way through. It is?  With a new plant running at less than 50% capacity?  The decision to move on isn't made any easier by being underwater now, but I remember at the time, I thought "Hmmm, JWEL or ACH,... JWEL or AHC?"  My ...more  
Comment by cpeczek on Aug 17, 2021 9:01am
Thanks for sharing your perspective. That is interesting to hear. I am more in the camp of FinnishFlash and thought this was more of a play where the price of the shares don't reflect the money they make because of a pullback in pandemic benefiting stocks and the legacy of Acasta. I figured any acquistions would be very low margin businesses. Has your perspective changed at all recently? I ...more  
Comment by gary7789 on Aug 17, 2021 1:45pm
I think investors should be concerned with current management's ability to stop the slide in revenue. That may continue given their reputation and relationship with Costco & Walmart is now lower than most other retail brand alternatives. Poor customer service (including but not only recall) did that. Once that is gone, it will take years to get back. They are no position to acquire ...more  
Comment by FinnishFlash8 on Aug 18, 2021 9:49am
I don't agree. Managements ability didn't drive the revenues up, it was covid. Management can't do much if hand sanitizer and cleaning product sales are declining. What they should do in my opinion, is disclose more information to shareholders. I'd like to know exactly how much did that product recall affect revenue in Q2 and what makes them think that "Demand for product is ...more  
Comment by zalmonella on Aug 20, 2021 12:49pm
I think investors should be concerned with current management's ability to stop the slide in revenue. That may continue given their reputation and relationship with Costco & Walmart is now lower than most other retail brand alternatives. Poor customer service (including but not only recall) did that. Once that is gone, it will take years to get back. They are no position to acquire ...more