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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Antibe Therapeutics Inc(Pre-Merger) ATBPF

Antibe Therapeutics Inc. is a clinical-stage biotechnology company. The Company is leveraging its hydrogen sulfide (H2S) platform to develop therapies to target inflammation arising from a range of medical conditions. The Company’s pipeline includes assets that seek to overcome the gastrointestinal ulcers and bleeding associated with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs). Its lead drug,... see more

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Post by IrishCanuck on Jan 11, 2021 1:50pm

My Takeaways

Seems like my feelings of being underwhelmed weren't alone this morning. I agree we shouldn't have expected the doors to have been blown off though. But after rereading the update a little slower on my laptop instead of my phone I've trimmed back a lot of the fluff. The key is to read it in Dan's "under promise, over deliver" kind of tone. I will very comfortably hold all my shares for the next 12 months stress free

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"We are also encouraged by the response to our U.S. institutional outreach, further validating our strategy for unlocking the value of our assets as we move toward a potential listing on a senior U.S. exchange." Nothing new here but this is the crux of the update and it's a slow process so we shouldn't be upset.
 
"Otenaproxesul’s Phase III preparations remain on schedule. With eight Phase III-enabling animal studies finished and a further two to complete." That's a lot of work completed, everything within Antibe's power is being accomplished, the clinical trials in the US and delay from Americans not social distancing is not their fault. 
 
"As planned, we will be submitting otenaproxesul’s IND (“Investigational New Drug”) application to the U.S. FDA within weeks." Good, and it keeps with the timeline we planned.
 
"In the interim, and supported by our strong balance sheet, we are taking the opportunity to perform an enhanced version of the previously planned absorption, metabolism and excretion (“AME”) study which is set to begin in Canada this quarter. In addition to providing valuable information for potential partners, this 6-week study (which includes 2 weeks of follow-up monitoring) will further de-risk dose selection for our Phase III program, while also supplying pharmacokinetic data required for drug marketing approval.I glossed over this the first time but that's low key a big deal and efficient for us to conduct now while the clinical trial is delayed. We're using the time effectively to help negotiations we are in. 
 
"ATB-352 study provided important input for trial design and confirmed the large unmet medical need for a gastrointestinal-safe NSAID for acute pain, projecting peak year sales exceeding US$800 million in the U.S. alone."  A BILLION! A BILLION CANADIAN DOLLARS PER YEAR IN THE US ALONE! This is why I love the company, Otena deserves all the focus it is getting as it's an ace, but 352 is a second ace! We've got pocket rockets baby! 
 
"New molecules and fresh intellectual property. Our first candidate for in vivo testing targets inflammatory bowel disease (“IBD”). More than three million U.S. adults suffer from this condition, long in need of safe and more effective first-line treatments. Previous work with hydrogen sulfide-releasing substances has shown encouraging results in animal models of IBD." If you captured a third of the market and got $1000 per customer that's another BILLION with proof of concept in hand already 
 
"This month’s launch of our large market partnering program, spearheaded by Dr. Rami Batal, our Chief Commercial Officer, and Ella Korets-Smith, our Head of Regional Business Development. The formal outreach process has commenced and we will report material developments as they occur." We're 11 days into the month, let's take it slow. 
 
"Further supporting our partnering activities and in preparation for a potential listing on a senior U.S. exchange, Antibe recently initiated efforts to unify the intellectual property (“IP”) ownership of our drugs and platform. We believe that full control of the underlying IP would unlock value for potential partners and investors while simplifying IP protection for our pipeline expansion efforts. 
In addition, we will soon upgrade our current U.S. OTC listing to the “QX” level from its current “QB” designation. These initiatives complement our recent graduation to the TSX, share consolidation and the appointment of U.S.-based directors." We WILL get on the NASDAQ and even if not, upgrading on the OTC is still an under appreciated accomplishment! 
 
Comment by Actuarial on Jan 11, 2021 2:03pm
Can't agree with you more IrishCanuck!
Comment by Pragmatist on Jan 11, 2021 2:24pm
I was puzzled by the last remark in the release.  The SEC defines a penny stock as one with a price of $5US or less that normally sells OTC.  In 2018, Merrill Lynch (and BAC?) initiated measures to ban penny stocks from their account holdings primarily due to some fraudulent trading elsewhere with penny stocks. (see: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/28/bank-of-america-cracks-down-on-penny ...more  
Comment by IrishCanuck on Jan 11, 2021 2:54pm
Yea, I clearly have no idea if you can step up more than one rung on the ladder at a time, or if you need to go step by step. I think that's the biggest unknown but I wouldn't be surprised if you could just jump straight up to the NASDAQ. But all taken together if Dan thinks the stock should be valued 2-4 times more than it currently is, they're encouraged by big institutions ...more  
Comment by Pragmatist on Jan 11, 2021 4:15pm
Methinks there is a difference of opinion on the minimal listing requirements for NASDAQ.  This likely is a result of there being myriad criteria based on NASDAQ market tiers, listing standards and bid/closing prices.     Most of the posts on the internet refer to the higher-tiered markets which require a $4USD bid price.  One needs to look at the NasDaq Initial ...more  
Comment by MrMugsy on Jan 11, 2021 4:01pm
Absolutely understand what you are saying - but - this was definately not a comprehensive update (as Dan indicated we should expect ... in a few weeks).  Also, his desire to have this out for J.P.Morgan is a little odd as I watched the presentation from this morning and he really didn't need this release to say what he said.  It all seemed to be what we already know. It is fairly ...more  
Comment by HarveyTwoface on Jan 11, 2021 4:09pm
Derisking dose selection for pIII was mentioned in last BioPub. Just fyi.
Comment by Pragmatist on Jan 11, 2021 4:42pm
Mugsy, I believe this falls under the category of new research as now listed in the Corporate Presentaion slide.  Dan discussed IBD during BioPub when talking about new applications..  He mentioned that this is an area worth exploring, that AHI currently holds a related patent, and this would be an appropriate area in which to task the new chemist.   The following is an excerpt ...more  
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