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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum BioExx Specialty Proteins Ltd BIXZF

"Bioexx Specialty Proteins Inc is engaged in the development and commercialization of processing technologies, for use in the extracting various active ingredients from organic and inorganic materials. The company's primary focus is on the production of proteins from canola and other oilseed feedstocks. Its products include Isolexx, a protein isolate for use in bakery products, meat products... see more

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BioExx Specialty Proteins Ltd > Europe Set ... The rest of the World up for grabs
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Post by Seldomwrongneverright on Apr 03, 2013 9:43am

Europe Set ... The rest of the World up for grabs

It appears as though Europe will be the real springboard for Canola (Rapeseed) Protein.  Saskatoon was a necessary, but pricey, pilot plant.

The rest of the world will still be available to BioExx to license or develop themselves.  The European plant will give them the experience to leverage the other markets.

Comment by juanito1 on Apr 03, 2013 10:46am
You are onto something there Seldom....here is my synopsis  I listened to the conference call that BXI held yesterday regarding their JV partnership. Although it is not a done deal, it looks to me promising. Firstly there is no more capital required of them to put a new 75,000 ton plant into Europe. There would be three partners, BXI, a strategic financial partner (maybe private money), and a ...more  
Comment by Seldomwrongneverright on Apr 03, 2013 11:03am
My main point is this is just Europe.  Once proven (never a sure thing), there are still massive markets in Asia and the US.  I doubt very much that BXI is giving these markets away in the JV they are negociating now.  These markets will remain theirs to develop for themselves, license or through other JVs.  The first plant is still critical, and I understand why there will be ...more  
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Comment by crocks31 on Apr 03, 2013 12:44pm
That's a great question.  He said it would be a minority stake so we know they are getting less than 33% of this JV but i'm also very curious as to how much of a hit CS had to take to get to get this far. To address another comment CS also mentioned when it was down to two parties that one would be in the initial deal with the second potentially coming on board as a result of the ...more  
Comment by DrAudit on Apr 03, 2013 1:49pm
Why cant they just sell off Minton to free up some short term cash flow?
Comment by eunice12 on Apr 03, 2013 3:40pm
I find it hard to believe they will get over 10% for just tech and no capital especially if the deal doesn't have exclusivity for the rest of the world. It isn't signed and he didn't mention any terms, so that doesn't mean your assumptions of BXI driving a hard bargain are correct. Out of money doesn't help negotiating. Canaccord's Elford had a previous estimate of the non ...more  
Comment by 1320racing on Apr 03, 2013 4:55pm
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Comment by Foodhawk on Apr 04, 2013 5:37pm
Yes, a possible scenario - as possible as this scenario: - BXI stake will be half of what you have assumed, let's say: 15-20 % of the JV > halfen your scenario and sp. - The 75,000 ton plant will not produce (because of lack of demand) at full capacity, but only at half of its capacity for the first years (market penetration takes time) > halfen your scenario and sp again. - the profit ...more  
Comment by Foodhawk on Apr 04, 2013 5:39pm
correction: >> this would mean that profit and SP may be only 1/8 of what you have assumed. Not 80 cents but 10 cents  
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Comment by Foodhawk on Apr 04, 2013 7:01pm
always appreciated your reasonable posts! Thank you for the efforts!
Comment by gadfly222 on Apr 04, 2013 8:32pm
Foodhawk - I am assuming you are European ...in doing so, a question: Does it make a difference if 'products' advertize a 'protein' as a 'rapeseed protein' or a 'canola protein' in Europe? I think I read somewhere that there is a certain negative, traditional perception regarding 'rapeseed' as a safe food source... I could be right off ...more  
Comment by gadfly222 on Apr 04, 2013 9:02pm
1320racing: re Helm;     “July 7, 2011 The Company is also pleased to announce that it has completed its first commercial sale and shipment to Helm AG.  This shipment, while less than 1 metric tonne, has been delivered in accordance with a Target Purchase Agreement for 2,000 metric tonnes of Isolexx/Advantexx per year from Saskatoon, which has been recently executed between the ...more  
Comment by gadfly222 on Apr 04, 2013 9:11pm
What does a "75,000 MT rapeseed processing facility" translate into as actual 'protein amount' produced... ????
Comment by 1320racing on Apr 04, 2013 9:53pm
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