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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Crius Energy Trust Tr Unit CRIUF

"Crius Energy Trust through its subsidiaries is engaged in the sale of electricity and natural gas to residential and commercial customers under variable price and fixed-price contracts. The company, through its subsidiaries, also markets solar products to its existing customers as well as to new prospects. It provides retail electricity to its customers in the Connecticut, Delaware, District... see more

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Post by charmed3timer on Aug 15, 2017 2:16pm

The Sell off

I believe The selloff is related to the attrition.

They lost approx 14% of the customers.

Sure they had a net gain in customers, but how much of that is due to aquistion?

Can they continue to keep buying new customers to continue growing ?

Remember we lost our "debt free" status with the last aquistion and a bunch of new shares were issued.

For now, our distributions are safe, but we can't continue to have more than (approx) 7% of our customer base dropping out per quarter.

With the low payout ratio our distributions should stay safe, but if customers keep dropping off at this rate all our metrics will change unfavourably.

JMO
Comment by Kisu on Aug 15, 2017 3:24pm
Actually they had a net gain in customers but the losses were in the commercial sector which would use more power.  The 375,000 customers (RCE) that they gained from the purchase of US Gas and Electric do not appear to have been included as they claimed only the addition of 174,000 and loss of 147,000 customers (net 25,000 gain) for the quarter.  The deal also closed outside the quarter ...more  
Comment by SirHumpsAlot on Aug 15, 2017 7:22pm
They explicitly said that the 174K gain was via sales and marketing. They did not mention aquasitions of customers int his number.
Comment by select555 on Aug 15, 2017 11:20pm
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Comment by maypeters on Aug 15, 2017 11:44pm
True. Though to be honest and you probably have seen the same in the past - when stocks get taken down so violently like this - they take time to recover.  Let us see how the next few days play out. 
Comment by Sukhi19 on Aug 16, 2017 1:51am
In situations like these one is reminded of Warren Buffet. Mostly it was fear as some people thought that legal matters may get out of hand. Quick pull back from $9.50 to $7.90 also smacks of manipulation; as it has been discussed before that low volume is susceptible to easy manipulation even by small players. Every morning some units were being bought by bidding higher than selling. $8.45 and $9 ...more  
Comment by Al42 on Aug 16, 2017 7:05am
Well I had a feeling this would happen but not to this extent. I had a stink bid in yesterday for $8.25 a little more than 10% of the closing price day prior. Got filed and was very suprised. Not sure if I'm happy yet.
Comment by Al42 on Aug 16, 2017 12:50pm
Little happier now that it's up 6% hoping it holds.
Comment by select555 on Aug 15, 2017 4:45pm
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Comment by SirHumpsAlot on Aug 15, 2017 7:19pm
The company has been losing 90,000 customers per quarter anyway. They lost 140K this time. This is a very important metric but it must be looked at within a bigger context. They did increase thier custiomers by 25,000 as a direct results of sales and marketing which generated 172K new customers where as they typically only added an average of 113K per quarter. So the aquasition of new customers is ...more  
Comment by select555 on Aug 15, 2017 7:25pm
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Comment by Kisu on Aug 15, 2017 9:53pm
What deal are you talking about?  US Gas and Electric purchase?
Comment by maypeters on Aug 15, 2017 10:47pm
Got brought down on low volume by someone who wanted out (or wanted to manipulate the price) - Stop losses got triggered - weak hands gave up and the only SMOAK in town is playing at first base with the Jays.  If you look at the volume on the takedown - it was not much. EFN got taken down mistaken for ENF and it still has not recovered. The market acts in weird ways but at some point of time ...more  
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