Crius Energy Trust Tr Unit CRIUF

doing a crash a burn here.

[Mickey2]

Let see where we can pick some up....falling knife...gotta be careful here.
looking for a gap on intraday chart..perhaps thats my signal

[SirHumpsAlot]

Incredible. The company bought back over 300000 shares. Insiders have been buying. And the stock tanks.

[MrEvilx]

company wants to buyback stocks cheap.... I am joking..

[Al42]

Looks like people running for the hills. Oh well too late now have to hold and see what happens

[SirHumpsAlot]

I just checked the short data on the stock..... Either it is not reporting or there are no short positions on this stock. Seems odd to not have any shorts given the market activity. Perhaps stop losses are being triggered along with people gettign nervouse and selling. I originally started buying this stock around $4 when everyone was selling a few years back. I wonder if this will be a repeat

[Al42]

Some 300,000 short as of the end of june $KWH-UN.TO CRIUS ENERGY TRUST UNITS 286,007 13,610 30 Jun 2018 $KWH-UN.TO CRIUS ENERGY TRUST UNITS 272,397 5,886 15 Jun 2018 $KWH-UN.TO CRIUS ENERGY TRUST UNITS 266,511 -35,727 31 May 2018 $KWH-UN.TO

[SirHumpsAlot]

so is this perhaps a short attack?

[MrEvilx]

the difference between then and now was... Crius did not have the debt of today, no solar unit (which is draining cash) .. but then markets are cyclical, not saying what you expect will not happen, but.. old crius and new crius are way different, and newer one is worse than older. 

[deisman03]

I just got off the phone with Kelly Castledin from Crius Investor Relations. She returned my previous call.  I was polite but staunch in asking for information.  When I asked what they were going to do about the falling price, her reply was Crius has no control over the market.  She claims that the financials are good and that they have enough cash flow to pay the

[SirHumpsAlot]

The drop immidiatly after the financials was understandable. There are a few probems... 1) Solar 2) Customer attrition 3) Pending litigation settlements That said, the solar can be sold or halted. I am not overly concerned with it. Customer attrition is expected to be higher with the massive recent aquasitions. When you buy such a large volume of customers you can not reasonable expect them all

[Sadie222]

They do have some influence over SP, if not control. They could be more enthusiastic about the NCIB program, for one. They could be more timely about their reporting of insider buys. Little things can matter. No news isn’t always good news to the market.

[Sunnyboy]

Hi Deisman, Did you ask about the all important payout ratio for Q2? Again to RBC Direct Investment management indicated that the Payout ratio for the total of 2018 is expected to be about 80% and payout ratio for 2019 is expected to be about 57%......

[deisman03]

C'mon Sb, I suspect that you know as well as I do that wouldn't be legal for them to disclose unless it's in a public announcement as a special release????  You have as much information as I do. Get realistic.  GLTA the good folks here. 

[Sunnyboy]

LOL getting a little antsy? The only all revealing thing will be the Q2 payout ratio. All other is just Bla Bla Bla.

[deisman03]

Not antsy enough to expect illegal insider information. How about you????  Have you called them? Emailed them???? Bla Bla Bla??????  I hope Ms Castledine is as honest as she claims to be.  There is a manager at Just Energy by the name of Debra Merril that took the brunt of the goings on there when that trusts price tanked. She stuck by the Manager all the way. 

[StocknerdEQcool]

deisman,  if you had done your due diligence a few week ago perhaps you should have seen this drop coming. Canaccord would not have cut the target price of  KWH for no apparent reason, Sukhi also would not have sold all his shares without careful consideration of the present situation with this trust. d·j vu to your beautiful encounter with JE 's Debra. By the way, Q2

[deisman03]

Wouldn't be the first time Cannacord tried to take down a viable company. Take a look at their share price. Not exactly at all time highs. 

[AAJJRR]

Ouch!!! Good folks indeed????? Desi I feel your pain, though fortunately not nearly as much, unless of course you're a multi millionaire then probably more. Seriously I do appreciate your diligence regarding communications with the head office. If this ends up being a uboat heading to the bottom god help us all, (ghua)!!! ps. ice cream and beer will help with the bruising. 

[Sadie222]

If that was her job, and she did it well, it should not haunt her. It could actually work in her favour.

[deisman03]

It hasn't though. No other job offers and not a single promotion since it happened. Same goes for her boss Rebecca McDonald. 

[Sadie222]

No promotion? So, she’s still working there? So’s her boss? There may be nowhere to promote them to at the moment. That is perfectly normal. No job offers? Is she actually looking, or are offers supposed to drop in her lap from a job tree somewhere? I fail to see any news value here. Sounds totally normal.

[deisman03]

That sounds good if you say it fast. They're on the payroll without any real position.  I suspect it may have been part of the deal when the two billionaires bought in.  I believe they are considered to be paid consultants. I've heard they've both looked elswhere but it's a no go.  Crius took on a manager from JE last year. Things started to go downhill very

[Sadie222]

They might have a problem, then. Saying solar is going to a contractor has not been publicly released afaik. That they were looking has been, but not that they had found someone, or where they were looking even.

[deisman03]

I suspect they're still looking and my abbreviated report made it sound like they've found someone. I would be surprised if they could find anyone to take that daunting task on.  They are going to take a loss, no matter how hard they wish they won't. IMHO they should just shut it down and stop the bleeding. I suspect they can't because of contractual obligations. 

[predawn]

and add to the fact they paid 7.50 for many many of those shares  man talk about squander cash