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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Crius Energy Trust Tr Unit CRIUF

"Crius Energy Trust through its subsidiaries is engaged in the sale of electricity and natural gas to residential and commercial customers under variable price and fixed-price contracts. The company, through its subsidiaries, also markets solar products to its existing customers as well as to new prospects. It provides retail electricity to its customers in the Connecticut, Delaware, District... see more

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Crius Energy Trust Tr Unit > big dividend cut imminent ?
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Post by spacegimp on Dec 07, 2018 11:48am

big dividend cut imminent ?

I cant imagine this continues much longer without a 50% divy cut . Margins being squeezed severely last few quarters , debt rising  , the sooner they cut the better . Perhaps they made some amazing forward commodity purchases 3 or 4 months ago that boosts earnings in the next few quarters  but i think the trend of squeezed margins in this sector is not going away .
Comment by predawn on Dec 07, 2018 12:55pm
LOL  nice try there mr shorter LOL next quarter will be huge Last quarter was GREAT there not cutting the dist;;;;;
Comment by deisman03 on Dec 07, 2018 1:01pm
IMHO, with the one time cost of shutting down Solar, their earnings will be fine.  At this point, that would just be another signal for the shorts to attack again.  Distribution cuts, can and often do cut both ways. That's why Just Energy is at it's present price. They cut the distribution and the stock price never recovered anywhere near its $12+ highs. IMHO a ...more  
Comment by predawn on Dec 07, 2018 1:03pm
add to the fact of the markets at a 2018 low ??interest rate scares  etc
Comment by Sadie222 on Dec 07, 2018 4:37pm
Which is why they’re building up their higher-margin portfolio and dropping those that are too tight. costs going down, revenues going up.
Comment by MrEvilx on Dec 07, 2018 6:16pm
makes no sense.. stock price has nothing do with decision about dividend cut or hike ..  company is focusing on higher margin customers, solar drain is almost gone... NCIB happening, Insiders are buying..the more units they buy and cancel the less divvy burden on the company..  The company doesn't cut dividend because the yield is 17.5% ..  what are you even talking about ...more  
Comment by MrEvilx on Dec 07, 2018 6:18pm
CLARIFICATION : The more units Crius buys and cancels through NCIB, the less burden on the company...   
Comment by deisman03 on Dec 07, 2018 11:07pm
I don't see them buying through NCIB at this point and they already said they've stopped.  DRIP is a great way for people to compound their earnings on a monthly basis, especially when distribution levels are so high as compared to price.  Right now that should be working in a similar manner to NCIB other than it's kicking the pay out can down the road and if it gets to ...more  
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Comment by QuantGuru on Dec 08, 2018 11:14am
The deregulated energy market has a lot of room for growth and Crius is very well positioned. The management is experienced and they are doing the right things which will boost the profitability in the coming quarters. Most of what you are saying is just the nature of the business... divvy is safe!
Comment by deisman03 on Dec 08, 2018 1:59pm
When stock is part of their pay package, it isn't usually bought and paid for by the recipient.  When I was working there were two ways to get such stocks.  One was when they came as part of a pay package or the other when they came as a bonus.  The recent shares were PURCHASED by the insider, neither were part of a pay package or a bonus from what I can see.  ...more  
Comment by retailisdead on Dec 09, 2018 7:30am
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Comment by deisman03 on Dec 09, 2018 1:08pm
Are you talikd about 3% on the  retail residential customers or are you quoting numbers while SOLAR was still a drain.  Of course your spewing numbers from the SOLAR drain becaue their first quarter without that drain won't happen for another 2 months.  Good try though. You've obviously crunched the numbers but you've deliberately left information out.  ...more  
Comment by retailisdead on Dec 09, 2018 5:16pm
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Comment by QuantGuru on Dec 09, 2018 7:33pm
retailisdead, distributable cash was $4.4MM in the third quarter because of $2.2MM non-recurring charges, $3.4 negative performance from solar, and $5.2MM in increased upfront selling cost... Accounting for these, distributable cash should be around $15.2MM a quarter which is more than enough to sustain the current dividend. There are also other cost savings which they said is around annual run ...more  
Comment by deisman03 on Dec 11, 2018 3:47am
retailisdead wrote-  I'm assuming you know what POR is. If you don't, heaven help you. Read more at https://www.stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard/t.kwh.un/?postid=29089382#vpzi1ekxQbB56Duu.99 Yes I know what RCE is and yes I understand how they calculate.  As for POR, I used to sign off on POR sheets every day I worked. I also know the numbers on those ...more  
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