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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Duluth Metals Ltd DULMF

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Duluth Metals Ltd > DM 60%in $6b TW=3.6b= 26/sh At35%=15/sh
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Post by GEEE on Mar 22, 2012 5:19am

DM 60%in $6b TW=3.6b= 26/sh At35%=15/sh

SHORT  STORY

1.Twin Metals  ( TM) at  80kt/d will have    1/2 ANTO    rev  ,so,  should   have  1/2 of  $  12 b   ANTO cap   =  $  6b

ANTO P/S =  2 .Applaying same  P/S  to  TM  =  $  6 b cap

 

2. the  sale  of  25% TM  at   price of  25% NAV at the  time  of  FS  will easy  cover DM  35% capex .

3. final  (CARRIED  FREE) 35%  stake in $6 b TM= $2.1 b = $  15  per  DM  share

7 bagger  but    very  long  wait   for  it.

 

LONGER  VERSION

Redmetal  wrote :  " At $4 copper $9 Nickel and $1200 PGM, total revenue of around $3 billion per year."


  80,000 tons a day equals  yearly production as follows:
Copper: 400,000 million pounds
Nickel: 80 million pounds
PGM's: 500,000 ounces

Cu  equiv  more  than 700 m lb ,

ANTO  did  640m lb   Cu in 2011  + other   stuff   to  a rev of  $  6 B


The  main news is  the  doubling   of  Mill capacity  to  80 kt/d    from  40kt/d


1. SIMPLE  VALUATION   .... multiply  previous  data    by  2


Their    June   2010  presentation  shows   base   case    with    Cu  price = $1.75
 Au price   600  Ni  $  12   
Today Ni  is  28%  lower  ,Cu is   350%  higher  , Au is   250% higher  .


So, it is  OK   to  follow  case  between   base  and  Jan 2008  market prices  case .
The  brown numbers in table  on page  10 of  that  2010 presentation  @ 40 kt/d
It  says  :


NPV = 16.3 b   so  now  will be   32.6 b
10%  NPV  =  $ 3.9 b  so, now  will be  8b  
Cash  flow    was  840m   so, now  will be  1.  68 b   More  because of  economy of  scale    Say  $  1.9 b
IRR  35 .5 %   -  now   say  30%  


The  multipied  by  2  prod    from that table now    is :
-- 362  m   lbs  Cu
-- 84 m  lbs  Ni
-- 500 k ozs   TP


CAP OF  ANTO  IS  $  12 B   @ SHARE PRICE  25%  BELOW  2011  TOP
at  low  P/E of  6.7,     rev = . $ 6 b ,     P/S  around  2 , EBITA  $  3.7 B  ,earnings  $  1.3 b


How much   will be  the  25%  of   JV  NAV   at the  time  of  FS  ,  ANTO  will pay  to  DM?
NAV  should  be  higher than NPV  but I will take   what   I  have   here  =  NPV


1/4 FROM  32 B  NPV= 8b  ( $ 58 /DM share)
That's  impossible , or  is  it ?


So, I'll take  only  the  $ 8 b of  10% NPV ( at  FS  time  more  appropirate  will be  5% NPV =  say ,$16 b )
1/4  of it  is  $  2 b (  $ 14.5  per  DM  share)
700%  from  now  .


$  2 b will be  twice   as  much  as DM  will need  to  cover it's  35%  of  capex .   
Means , no  dilution ,  no  debt  and hundreds of  $$ millions  in cash


Even if    ANTO  will pay  for that  25%   less than  $  1b ...it looks they will pay   more  than  enough  to  cover  DM portion of  capex .in  any  case .


In  addition  to  that  $  1b  or  $  2 B  cash  =   $  7.2  to  $14.5/sh    ,  DM  will end  up  with  35% of  TM =$15/sh

 No matter  where   stock speculators  will trade  DM in between:  , 20c  or  $ 20,
(looks,  they keep DM for  now   in 50%  range   $  2 -  3 )
it  should  end  up   at  min  $ 15/sh   and   certainly at   more  than today's  ridiculous   $2.2


So,   those who bought    below  $ 4  should  never  lose , given  enough time  and  patience .
and  barring unlikely   case  when  TM  will never, ever  get  a permit .


If it is  extremelly unlikely  I will lose  on DM  at today's price   ... so  how much I  can  win ?
double?
triple
quadruple
..what  about  7 times ?

you tell me .


The  going  every day  lately   dumping  of  20k shares  at 15:59  hrs  and  9:31 hrs
(which  is  like  1/2 of  daily  volume )  to push the  price  down ,  will stop sooner or later .
Maybe  it stopped  today  on  10%  reversal  from   strong    1.5 Y  horizontal  support  at $  2.


If  PPS  reversed  from $  2  to  a  top  of  range  ...4 times  in the  past (    2  times back   to $  3 and 

2 times  only  to   $2.7   because of   selling  at  that  price  Farnconians )  ...    
today's  reversal  seems     real  and  ,  as in the  past  cycles  ,should  last  a month or   two.
If there will be  no  significant  news .


But in a month  there  will be  very  significant  news:     AT LEAST  50% higher  resoure  announcement  ( can  be  as  much  as 70 % more  )

with   likely  100%  higher  NPV.


So,  this  time   DM can break  up    from that   range  , on the  way  to    above   $  4.
There   is    also  not  many   "Franconians "   left    who were   selling "  whenever  PPS  hit  $  2.7   - their  conversion price.

Only negative  is  long  wait.

But  there is  also  a possibility  of  lower  return ( just 100%) in shorter time.

That  scenario is  takeover  of  DM  at  say, $  600m =  $  4 before  FS  time .

Why would  ANTO pay   $  1 b  for  25%  stake  if  they can  have  whole  60%   by buying premeturely  whole  DM   for  600m?    (  100%  from here)    That's  like  $  1.5 b  savings.  for  them .

If  price  will be   good  enough  (  IE  $  6 ) ,  DM  can   agree to  a  change  of  previous  contract   for  the  sake  of  having  less money  but  years    earlier  .

Comment by redmetal on Mar 22, 2012 10:56am
GEEE, excellent post but you forgot about 50% of DM value in DEL, which will drill up another Nokomis or better on the nearby lands.
Comment by GEEE on Mar 23, 2012 1:27am
Thanks Eigen for a good word . Best wishes to you too. No one can ban or acuse of slander people who say the truth . Does the most powerfull bank in world which sues and is sued 24/7/365 , accused Matt Taibbi for slander in this article ? ( 6 pages) https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/bank-of-america-too-crooked-to-fail-20120314 Despite calling the billionaires on ...more  
Comment by The_Shadow on Mar 23, 2012 2:47am
GEEE nice to see you back in the saddle notwithstanding your periodic AWOLs!   Hey, if you are pumped up about DM best take a gander at III too.   I have been into both of these for a very long time now and truly believe that both of them will ultimately become world class base metal mines.
Comment by goldsternp on Mar 23, 2012 4:19am
The numbers do indeed look good and we all know that maybe the market is rational in the long run. It's just that the long run isn't here yet. You lost me on BAC as the stock never went to 1.5. You must be talking about something else?  Nonetheless, the crooks are everywhere including our governments, so we have to take that into account in anything we do. Just for example,  ...more