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Primary Symbol: T.ENS Alternate Symbol(s):  T.ENS.PR.A

The objective of the Class A shares is to provide holders with non-cumulative monthly cash distributions and the opportunity for capital appreciation through exposure to the portfolio. And The investment objectives for the preferred shares is to provide holders with fixed cumulative preferential quarterly cash distributions and return the original issue price of 10.00 Dollars to holders upon... see more

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E Split Corp > Understanding the ENB share price wave
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Post by Obscure1 on Aug 07, 2024 6:31pm

Understanding the ENB share price wave

I'm posting in response to cttglvr's comments about the sellers being uninformed. 

On the surface, I would agree.   However, I think that a look at the 2 year chart of the ENB share price is quite useful.  

Other than for the last two ENB dividends, you have to go back almost two years to Feb 2022 to find a period where the share price of ENB is not lower six weeks after it goes ex-divi.  

What does that mean?

Other than overall market moves or some event with ENB, the stock trades in 3 month cycles.  For the first six weeks (1/2 a cycle), ENB trades down.  For the following 6 weeks before the next divi, ENB trades up. 

How can it be so simple???????  ENB is a granny stock driven by cash flow management from its large dividend by investors (remember that retail shareholders barely count).

Why was ENB up after the Nov 2023 divi?  This answer is easy.  The market pounded the shiite out of ENB following the Sept 5, 2023 announcement about the company spending Cdn$19 billion (dilution warning) to buy 3 natgas distribution companies in the US from Dominion.  Basically, there was nowhere for the share price to go but up. 

Why was ENB up after the Feb 2024 divi?  This one is not so clear cut.  However, ENB did report good numbers and there was clarity provided about the progress of the natgas deal.  Good numbers make the news but clarity helps fund managers.  Fund managers won't risk their careers on the possibility of being wrong, so clarity is king.  

So, where does that leave us?

The ENB share price has been on a nice roll with good Q2 numbers and clarity on the $2.5 billion ATM offering being completed.  Will the roll continue after August 15 (ex-divi) or will the share price start to cycle downwards for 6 weeks like it ususually does (barrie events0?

The only problem with ENS historically IMO is that when the ENB share price takes a hit, ENS shareholders don't pay attention.  As a result, the Premium to the NAV skyrockets and Middlefield ends up punching us in the mouth.  You can't blame Middlefield as that is their game.  All of the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of ENS investors.  Normally, public companies have a large investitutional base but not ENS.  Therefore, unsophisticated retail investors make mistakes and the pros pounce.  Simple when you think about it. 

This time around (in regards to the ENB ex-divi date), the Premium to the NAV for ENS is ridiculously low (approaching a 6% discount).  You can buy ENS for $0.70 below the NAV which is nuts imo.  But, until ENS shareholders can show discipline (and sell) when ENB drops, the jury is still out.  As such, maybe the sellers are just being cautious as history has shown that Middlefield often does a Raise right after the month end following an ENB dividend.

Long explanation.  Sorry

Comment by cttglvr on Aug 07, 2024 9:12pm
Thanks for the detailed reply Obscure1. I guess we'll have to wait for the ex-dividend date next week to see how much Enbridge drops and in turn how much it affects ENS. That said something stinks about the way ENS is trading. I still think one or more of the underwriters got stuck with a bunch of shares they couldn't dump on the sheep and have been forced to sell into a fairly illiquid ...more  
Comment by ANALOG GUY on Aug 07, 2024 11:09pm
Just wondering  is there a 4 month hold on an Overnight offering like there is on a PP? The overnight offering closed on April 19
Comment by Experienced on Aug 08, 2024 8:51pm
Nope
Comment by marcrobert on Aug 08, 2024 11:44am
Enb is up 5 bucks in 30 days, not sure 92 cent div in underlying is going to crash that momentum, however rates are reversing again to the upside so that could pressure enb a bit
Comment by Experienced on Aug 09, 2024 8:49am
Obscure...thanks for yet another great post!! I think your tutoring has resulted in a change in the way people handle their decisions regarding ENS since the premium has fallen from the usual teens to a discount.  This has had an impact on Middlefield.  Runour has it that they have spoken to a long time associate in Sicily and there is now a bounty on your head!!...lol. Your comment ...more  
Comment by Ganyman61 on Aug 09, 2024 11:48am
Historically does ENS trade at or above there Nav?
Comment by cttglvr on Aug 09, 2024 8:12pm
From my experience ENS usually trades at a modest to high premium to NAV. When it gets high Middlefield does another share issue. Exceptions do happen but rarely.  With ENB closing up today and ENS down again the discount to NAV I figure is about 7% or 86 cents. I have never seen this type of discount before. Next week Enbridge goes ex dividend usually dropping the ENB share price more than ...more  
Comment by Ganyman61 on Aug 09, 2024 9:14pm
So technically it should be trading at today's closing NAV.
Comment by cttglvr on Aug 09, 2024 9:30pm
Yes. If the ENS was perfectly correlated to the price of Enbridge, ENS should have closed at about $12.62 today.
Comment by Ganyman61 on Aug 09, 2024 9:45pm
So what's holding it up? Something doesn't feel right!
Comment by cttglvr on Aug 09, 2024 10:06pm
That's what I have been thinking. I have owned ENS for years, selling once in a while. Right now something stinks about the way ENS is trading. I had wondered with the fairly large share raise in April one of the underwriters got stuck with shares they couldn't unload to their clients. Middlefield dumped over 4.5 million new shares during the last raise. If one of the underwiters did get ...more  
Comment by Ganyman61 on Aug 09, 2024 10:39pm
I see what you mean but ENS only trades about 30 to 40 thousand shares a day. Why not wait and sell them at a higher price?
Comment by cttglvr on Aug 09, 2024 11:04pm
I sure wish I had an answer to the way ENS is trading but I don't. Even when ENS starts tp move up when Enbridge is going up, someone comes in and sells ENS shares to drive the price back down and the discount gets larger. I guess it makes us safer from another Middlefield raise but again I think something stinks with the way ENS is trading.
Comment by Jagger7 on Aug 10, 2024 6:16am
Ens price is based on Enbridge, what could stink,  only reason is someone needs cash or owns too much, but semmsclike the safest high yirldcplaybtomme , but what do I know ?
Comment by Ganyman61 on Aug 10, 2024 8:18am
Lately it's been range bound at 11.75$. Enbridge will eventually hit 55$ and beyond so it has to break through.