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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Eurocontrol Technics Ord EUCTF

"Eurocontrol Technics Group Inc is a Canada-based company involved in acquisition, development, and commercialization of security, authentication, verification and certification markets. The company through its subsidiaries is engaged in designing, manufacturing, marketing of energy-dispersive X-ray fluorescence (ED-XRF) systems, and developing technology and property that combines two... see more

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Eurocontrol Technics Ord > EUO seems to be underpricing its products
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Post by RE38 on Dec 30, 2015 10:33am

EUO seems to be underpricing its products

Notice on the call with Bob that he gave an example...GFI gets $1.5M in recurring revenue annually for a program that saves $10M in tax revenue A MONTH. So this is essentially a 98% to 99% margin business for the governments. Assuming his example is aligned with reality. Even if he is embellishing a bit, an 80% to 90% margin would still be a slam dunk business case for the governments.

Perhaps part of the reason why SICPA can take over this business and we will be confident that the 5% royalty will eventually grow bigger than 100% of what EUO had with GFI under its belt is a price increase. Imagine once those contracts come due, SICPA raises the price 10x to $15M....the government is still going to say yes if they are saving $10M a month in lost tax revenue. SICPA has the wherewithal to really negotiate a fairer price for the service they provide. I'm sure that would flow to Xenemetrix as well.
Comment by shawshank on Dec 30, 2015 11:32am
Re 38 agreed. But it is the market and sector potential IMO for XwinSys that the table will need constant pounding for I believe based on ROI expectations on that one sub alone about o become live commercially in early 2016-that the real traction will start to be demonstrated in EUO's valuations...for it seems like the market is discounting as you note the SICPA deal quite deeply. Happy New ...more  
Comment by RE38 on Dec 30, 2015 1:30pm
Same to you! Though I think XwinSys potential should be secondary. Not because of its lack of potential, but because of the sad TSXV market EUO sits on. You being a past Keek investor knows this about as good as anyone...70 million users or whatever and the stock hits the fast track to a penny pre-split after the initial pump because the market can't accept the fact that it needs money before ...more  
Comment by lscfa on Dec 30, 2015 1:41pm
I agree. The venture is a cesspool of manipulative activity and ignorant investors. No amount of promotion will keep a speculative stock's price up even if it is adding value consistently. Only companies with revenues and earnings which allows valuation by the dumbest of investors can hold its own. Venture investors have been conditioned to think that a stock will always come back down after a ...more  
Comment by zenvesting on Dec 31, 2015 1:51pm
Agreed, the venture exchange and these Stockhouse BS boards are a cesspool of manipulative activity, which is the fundamental reason I contact management before I invest in a company on this exchange and will typically only invest in a venture exchange listed company if they express an interest in getting off of the venture exchange.  All of the stocks I currently own on the venture exchange ...more  
Comment by stack on Dec 31, 2015 1:58pm
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Comment by shawshank on Dec 31, 2015 2:15pm
Comment by kidl2 on Dec 30, 2015 2:03pm
Let’s get to the TSX first and we will ... ;-)
Comment by RE38 on Dec 30, 2015 2:25pm
For anyone who thinks the TSX is the solution, I have three letters for you: ORT One of the most blatantly manipulated stocks I've ever seen. IIROC actually halted the stock due to DOWNWARD trading several times, which I have never seen before. IIROC halts stocks plenty of times seeking management contact when they move UP on no news. But never down. That's how bad it got on ORT about a ...more  
Comment by stack on Dec 30, 2015 2:45pm
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Comment by kidl2 on Dec 30, 2015 2:50pm
OT ... ORT is a really bad example. It’s the epitome of a mismanaged story stock.
Comment by lscfa on Jan 02, 2016 2:02am
This is another strike against Rowlands mgmt expertise. Why the hell were they selling the product so cheaply when the "sticky" clients would have been willing to pay much higher prices?.......
Comment by kidl2 on Jan 03, 2016 10:44am
>>>This is another strike against Rowlands mgmt expertise.<<< Another??? WOW, talk about a taugh crowd ... LOL
Comment by lscfa on Jan 03, 2016 11:26am
Yes, another strike. The fact that EUO has not been able to grow sales of Xenemetrix in the last 5 years despite the product winning awards, being superior quality and 20% cheaper than competitors means Rowlands is not very good at marketing spectrometers.
Comment by shawshank on Jan 03, 2016 1:26pm
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Comment by kidl2 on Jan 03, 2016 2:44pm
Point actually well taken but something which is about to change now that R&D / marketing cash is no longer in short supply. Petromarine comes to mind ...
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