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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Forte Group Holdings Inc FGHFF


Primary Symbol: C.FGH

Forte Group Holdings Inc., formerly BevCanna Enterprises Inc., is a diversified lifestyle and wellness consumer packaged goods company. The Company, through its subsidiaries, is focused on developing, manufacturing and distributing lifestyle and wellness consumer packaged goods for in-house brands and white-label clients via a multichannel sales network. Its segments include Conventional... see more

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Post by shneps on Mar 18, 2022 9:08am

Water Source

I need to make a correction related to the valuation of the water source. As of December 30th 2020 (after the announcement of the Naturo acquisition) the following statement was issued by Bevcanna -

"BevCanna will also take possession of one of Naturo's most valuable assets, their exclusive onsite alkaline spring water source, independently valued at $18M." As water resources become increasingly more scarce, BevCanna expects that the proprietary resource will contribute to a strengthened balance sheet and to BevCanna's unique positioning within the exploding plant-based and cannabis sectors."

This was the basis on which the valuation was based :

Significant valuation inputs include:
Infinite useful life of the Water Source;
Projected production volume on two production lines with volumes between 8,400,000 gallons per year and 21,000,000 gallons per year;
Industry average royalty rate of 8%; and
Range of discount rates adjusted for asset-specific risks to the Water Source of 23.9% to 26.1%.


How is it possible without having committed to a "misleading" or "false statement" to state in Naturo's audited financial statements that the water source was valued at $8M (without any impairment) on Dec 30th 2020
And yet Bevcanna states it is worth $18M on Dec 12th 2020, over two weeks previous to the audited financials.
I guess adding an additional $10M was merely a typo.

There is also the fact that in 2015 Miller Springs (Naturo) was illegaly exceeding their daily limits of water removal, was requesting a much larger limit for daily extraction and was ultimately denied by the water board.

https://docs.openinfo.gov.bc.ca/Response_Package_AGR-2015-53124.pdf

Everything related to the bottled water source have been knowing misleading and indeed false statements.

Sal, if you would like to explain how this was not "black and white" for the above scenario I would be more then happy to listen to an explanation.
Please and thank you in advance.
Comment by Sal1958 on Mar 18, 2022 9:46am
schneps the 18m evaluation was shown a year earlier when the news releases were coming out on the naturo aqusation. Not sure why it would show 8m on the Financials. Why don't u show us the Financials with the info. Why don't u get us an original current evaluation of what its current worth is. Again u r claiming there is a fugging of info and don't know the real reason why. Don't ...more  
Comment by shneps on Mar 18, 2022 9:58am
I have already posted this information twice but I will do it again for you. Note the water source valuation is Dec 31st 2020. The announcement of the acquisition was 19 days earlier. "9. WATER SOURCE AND LICENSE The Company has the right to use and extract groundwater from a certain property located in the Yale Land District of British Columbia (the “Water Source”) pursuant to a license ...more  
Comment by Sal1958 on Mar 19, 2022 11:08am
schneps it says on initial recognition it was measured at 8m valuation. when was the original recognition 1995? Looks like this was a valuation from prior to the Aquafier even being started up. I strongly believe u r in the wrong. Please provide info on current valuation. Have a nice day.
Comment by shneps on Mar 20, 2022 8:48am
Sal two points related to this: 1. I have provided the information (twice) for you about the valuation. As of December 31st 2020 there is no impairment (and on the same token there is no increase in the fair value of the asset. Remember BEV inflates the valuation of their assets via goodwill and intangibles all the time). 2. I have also previously posted the application by Naturo for the ...more  
Comment by shneps on Mar 20, 2022 9:48am
"Reference was made to Piteau Source Water Assessment commissioned in 2015 by Miller Springs and to a letter from Miller Springs to Town of Osoyoos"
Comment by shneps on Mar 20, 2022 10:30am
Considering the well was only drilled in 1998 it shows that you are merely throwing sh_t at the walls to see what sticks. https://apps.nrs.gov.bc.ca/gwells/well/113928
Comment by Sal1958 on Mar 20, 2022 7:59pm
schneps it was only a per say reference point that was only of by 3 years. The valuation u provide is not current. Here is a disclaimer from the government web page u provided. Disclaimer The information provided should not be used as a basis for making financial or any other commitments. The Government of British Columbia accepts no liability for the accuracy, availability, suitability ...more  
Comment by shneps on Mar 21, 2022 7:49am
For your future records I have copied the actual water licence for the bottling facility below. I have highlighted the actual amount of water they are allowed to extract from the well on a daily and yearly basis. I'm assuming they have applied for their updated permit which had to be done by March 1st 2022. This application cannot be increased from the present limits it is merely a requirement ...more  
Comment by Sal1958 on Mar 22, 2022 12:18am
schneps u need to actually show the current value of the aquafier. U have a tendency to throw to much info that does does not answer the question. Please let us know how this add up to ab 8m valuation. Have a nice day.
Comment by shneps on Mar 22, 2022 8:54am
I can't help the fact that your are not intelligent enough to realize that it is Bevcanna who's stated the valuation (in the financial statements) and you want me to prove it. How be you ask Bevcanna for the latest "independently" assessed document by "an accredited professional" for the valuation of the bottled water aquifer and see what you come up with. I can ...more  
Comment by Sal1958 on Mar 22, 2022 1:03pm
schneps you r claiming its not. U should be the one to prove it. Have a nice day