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Post by victor2009 on Dec 07, 2010 2:29pm

Update?

I won't bother responding to doingthejob/aatozz. He has been laughed off the forums of his company of choice, and unfortunately will likely use this forum to prattle on about anything that he feels may upset LBE supporters. Regular readers know his agenda. Any new readers that are wondering about this windbag can get some insight as to his credibility by checking the T.ISM forum.

In my opinion we are at a point that communication from the interim CEO is overdue. He must realize that Gary Nash's departure was cause for concern for many of the "ordinary" shareholders. The news release covering the departure provided no details, which may be understandable. Personally, I think that it would have shown some class to express some recognition and Thanks for Gary's efforts. However beyond that, some time may have been required to get familiar with the territory, before making further comment.

Soon it will be a month, since this change. The new CEO, I would think had some knowledge of the company basics prior to the announcement date, and has now had enough time prepare some meaningful communication to the shareholders,and public. We may never be informed of the reasons that the powers that be relieved Gary of his duties; and most certainly will not, if there is any ongoing dispute regarding settlement terms. But there is other information that could be made available. LBE is at or near, a point that McWatters will be at more profitable production levels. Concentrate production levels could be disclosed. Someone in the company is aware of this kind of information on a daily basis, it doesn't take a familiarization period to be able to give some guidance on progress in these areas. If it's bad news, breakdowns or operational problems, so be it. It's going to come out sooner or later anyway, and it can't do much more damage to the share price than has already occurred.
 
It's not so much that the average shareholder can't survive without being provided with interim tonnage figures, that many may not be able to put in perspective. It's the principle of the thing. Some sort of general communication would show that the company has some respect for some of the little guys that have supported the company for years. This group have been spoiled, for the past five or so years; it's understandable they are getting antsy over the dead silence since November 10.  If minority shareholders are in the future of this company, LBE would be well advised to consider their information needs, it will be hard to maintain the excellent communications of the past, but let's not drift into the indifference that is shown by too many public companies.

Another thing that we should be looking forward to before very long, is some transparency on the intentions of Jilin Jien. JJ doesn't have to say a word in this regard, but they did set a precedent in the past. Gary Nash outlined the goals as to retirement of debt and redemption of preferred shares. JJ stated in a Press Release that they supported this plan. A number of shareholders had reason to believe that JJ's intention was to participate in Liberty Mines as a functioning Canadian public company. There was the belief that Jilin Jien's goals for Liberty were similar to those adopted by Gary Nash before their involvement. If this is not the intention of Jilin Jien, then they will do what they please as far as transparency.  However if Jilin Jien does in fact intend to continue to operate as a public company, it would be advised to give some guidance, because if nothing is said, investors will assume the worst on dilution and going private. Gary's departure has added a number of shareholders to the list that are concerned in this regard. A Press Release indicating their intentions could allay some of the concerns, but to provide more comfort, more concrete actions would be desirable.  There are a number of things that could be done, all dependent on JJ's intentions. The first thing, in my opinion, would be to restructure the debt to repayment dates that are achievable under present circumstances and forecasts, and alter the conversion options accordingly - or eliminate them. I will not pretend to suggest any detailed restructuring of debt or preferred shares. The point I'm making, is that if it is thought to be beneficial to maximize the market price of shares, the present structure is inflicting a sizeable discount - quite possibly without any meaningful benefit to Jilin Jien.  Anything that can be done to reduce the concern over dilution (and going private), will enhance the share value.  Maintaining Jilin Jien's position, and enhancing share value is not necessarily mutually exclusive.

The bashers and critics belittle anyone that would invest in a foreign controlled company. The disadvantages they throw out are over-stated, either through ignorance or intent to deceive. There are hundreds of examples of such companies that wish to access the public capital markets, that have been excellent investments for the average investor. If Jilin Jien's intent is to become one of these companies, it would be beneficial to make that intent known.
Comment by doingthejob on Dec 07, 2010 2:43pm
Victor2009, My Puppet,My god, sounds like you are starting to get it.  I know your limited IQ prevents you from seeing the whole picture, but you are starting to see what many have seen for a long time.  Your bellowing about the merits of LBE being an aspiring "mid-tier Nickel producer", your retarded share projections, your ignorance as to the effects of debt and controlling ...more  
Comment by victor2009 on Dec 07, 2010 3:23pm
doingthejob/aatozz,No, I'm a long way from sounding like you. And I spell differently, too. You're having that same bad spell that used to afflict the second last surviving ISM cheerleader - rocksolid47/trailorparkboy.How do you have time to post your drivel on this forum? You haven't answered the outstanding matters that I noted on the T.ISM forum. remember you said you and ...more  
Comment by doingthejob on Dec 07, 2010 3:43pm
Victor2009, My puppet,I have you so twisted you don't even know up from down, left from right.  Given that we are on the LBE board, so how is your LBE investment going?  Happy with your investment?  Are you still loving JJ like a brother?  Let's here some more of your ridiculous predictions as to where this POS is going.  You see Victor2009, your obvious investment ...more  
Comment by victor2009 on Dec 07, 2010 5:03pm
Press Release Source: Liberty Mines Inc. On Tuesday December 7, 2010, 4:25 pm EDMONTON, Alberta--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Following its recent change in management, Liberty Mines Inc. (TSX:LBE.to - News) (“Liberty”, or the “Company”) was pleased to receive last week representatives of its majority shareholder, Jilin Jien, including and together with ...more  
Comment by victor2009 on Dec 07, 2010 5:33pm
The timing of my criticism for delays in communication was unfortunate; it was obviously reasonable to wait for the Jilin Jien tour and discussions to end. I find two things in particular to be encouraging. 1) The Company plans to release more information on its strategic plan later this month. This information will give us an update on the Business plan, which can be used as a yardstick for ...more  
Comment by doingthejob on Dec 08, 2010 8:31am
But, it probably won't be until next Christmas.  JJ appears to be moving cautiously as the $800K is a drop in the bucket as to what they have already committed and this amounts to approximately 2.5 months of interest.  What it really comes down to is that the current resources and reserves are not enough to bring JJ into the game with both feet.  They really need proof that ...more  
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