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The long haul of the fight against COVID-19

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Breaking news on the MSNBC show ALL IN with Chris Hayes (CH) was interviewing the best science journalist in the country, a pulitzer prize winner, and a columnist for foreign policy LAURIE GARRETT (LG) who has been tracking and covering this virus since the beginning......CH.....I want to start with this idea as to where we are in this trajectory I worry about saying we have a very long way to go   but I do worry a gap has opened up between the expectations that the White House has set and what public experts in epidemeology are saying where we are in this.........LG.....we have a very long way to go  everyone is looking at the event horizon as to, when can I get out of my apartment, when can I go to a football game.......the event horizon that is real  in terms of this virus is 2 years, 3 years, way down the road      look at what is happening in China a whole second giant epidemic is opening up in the far north near the Russian border        we are seeing a resurgence of the virus after everything proper was done in Singapore, in Japan        we have to be VERY VERY careful how we approach all this  and understand we can't simply test our way out of this pandemic   we'll never have enough test kits,   nobody is using them properly, many are inadequate in terms of their design and function and honestly we need  smart  testing and nobody is really talking about that.....CH....... if there is any basket we are tempted to put all our eggs in is the testing basket to test our way out of the crisis, so it is some what deflating to hear you say the sentence "we can't test our way out of the pandemic" so please explain.....LG.......lots of employers have contacted me about testing their employees...........the problem is if you test them monday they are infected on thursday.......are you going to test every single employee every single day....similarly kids going back to school........are you going to test every single school child every single day......where are those test kits going to come from..........whose going to manufacture them, and who is going to do quality control and regulate, to make sure they really are what they claim to be as test kits...........what we need to be doing is SMART testing......really guided by the scientific principal where we ask the right policy questions and come up with a way to answer the problem with appropriate targeting, so for example lets say you run a big automobile plant in Detroit and you want to know if is it safe for me to let my workers go back to work......you won't be able to test everyone but you might be able to set up a cohort of a representitive sample on a regular basis.  One problem is that we are heading to a market place assesment ...for example...a customer comes in and asks the store owner if you "have been tested"....."oh yah" they say. so come on in, next thing you know you are carrying the virus cause they want you in their store regardless of safety........we need smart tesing and there have  been lots of good proposals....one in Massachusetts, a new plan from David Bloom out of Harvard...........there are several different groups who have come up with strategic plans, strategic plans that use less actual tests but give you better policy guidance answers.

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TED talk on "Lessons from the 1918 flu" by Laurie Garrett in 2007 that is particularly relevant for today.  It will make your skin crawl: https://www.ted.com/talks/laurie_garrett_lessons_from_the_1918_flu

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The previous article mentioned Singapore and its resurgence with the virus.  Here is an article that is discussing the situation called "How Singapore Flipped From Virus Hero to Cautionary Tale": https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/how-singapore-flipped-from-virus-hero-to-cautionary-tale/ar-BB12Yxec?li=AAggFp4