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Mega Brands Inc > MB is back on track big time with the current oper
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Post by nerzaa on Nov 05, 2010 10:59am

MB is back on track big time with the current oper

MB is back on track big time with the current operating raio.

let me break it down to you boys and girls, in the toys manufacturing business, operating ratio is the key.

MB is back on track big time with the current EBIT margin (19%) at 128M sales level, this is an amazing number, which means cogs/sales at 58%, other operating expenses/sales at 22.8%. This is a level where MB can make good money.

excluding all the one time items, q1 2010 EBIT is a loss at -20; however, with all that restrucuring going on, we can't blame them. q4 2010 sales are likely to be on par with the q3 sale, based on historical peformance from 2001-2005, 2006-2009 q4 sales were lower than q3 due to recall/other issues, which shouldn't be used as indicator.

all that being said, q4 sales will likely be on par/better than q3 sales, at the current operating ratios, MB is likely to make same/better EBIT in q4. add q2 to q4 EBIT up, and kick out q1 loss and give it a 0 EBIT for q1 2011 just like 2001-2006; we will get a 55.5 EBIT for 12 months to q1 2011; minus the interest expense, which is said to be 21,that's 35 million for the 12 month period, which is an awesome number.

divide 35M by 571M fully diluted shares outstanding, that's 0.06 per share; give it a multiple of 15, that's 0.91$ for the stock, which is a very reasonable value considering the curernt operating ratios.

so here you go, i assume that's how one of the analyst (johnson gerrick) came up with his estimation, which is 0.99.

Comment by tonygtx on Nov 05, 2010 11:15am
I agree MB is turning it around but with a 10:1 RS looming in its future its not going anywhere unless you can figure out where they want the stock price  to be...it might go to $1.00 if the want the share price a $10.00 after the RS but its anyones guess....another example of screwing the little guy
Comment by navigator11 on Nov 05, 2010 11:23am
End result is that this consolidation is nothing more than semantics in the big scheme of things.  There is a psychological aspect to it, but the end result is unchanged.  If anything, it will eventually allow funds to buy back in as many have minimum SP requirements which are not currently fullfilled at sub 1$...Nav
Comment by tonygtx on Nov 05, 2010 11:44am
You call it semantics i call it losing 90% of your shares.....the only thing working in our favor is that it looks like they want at least $1 share price before the announce it
Comment by navigator11 on Nov 05, 2010 11:49am
Yes, hence the psychological aspect of it, but work it out as a % of shares outstanding and it's a wash.  Like I said, semanticsNav
Comment by tonygtx on Nov 05, 2010 12:07pm
LOL...a wash...do the math and see how much of a wash it is....you think a $10 stock is going to move like a .50c stock
Comment by Nununzac on Nov 05, 2010 12:31pm
10$ stock brings out stability0.50$ stock brings out opportunitiesIf MB want to attract investors who have a greater risk aversion > 10$If MB want to attract investors emotionally unaffected by risk > 0.50$
Comment by tonygtx on Nov 05, 2010 12:56pm
You better hope your on the right side of the trade when they RS....say for example if you're averaged in at .80c and they RS at 50c....you need $3 dollars to break even instead of .30c......and you figure out what happens to your profits if you're ahead of the price when they RS
Comment by woundedknee on Nov 05, 2010 1:38pm
Actually, a !0 dollar stock sometimes moves better than a 50 cent stock. Generally, I don't like reverse splits because they are a last gasp effort to keep the stock eligible for certain criteria; especially with a non profitable company. Mega brands is a little different as it has made a turnaround. If you don't like the reverse split...sell a few days prior and then buy back a few days ...more  
Comment by tonygtx on Nov 05, 2010 2:09pm
Actually a 10 dollar stock with about 37M shares has about a 20c spread between B and A and wont go up without some real good news but will go down real easy by tracking the index and short positions.....like i said earlier if this RS wasnt looming in the background this stock would be well over a $1 now because its the perfect turn around story
Comment by nerzaa on Nov 05, 2010 2:22pm
to tongtxi disagree. for a good company, a 10 dollar stock with 37M shares is just likely to go up compare to a 1 dollar stock with 370M shares outstanding. in the end, the only thing that matters is the amount of money the company can make, nothing else.
Comment by tonygtx on Nov 05, 2010 2:37pm
Sure and 10 dollar stocks with 37M shares double everyday...LOL
Comment by tonygtx on Nov 05, 2010 2:47pm
Your lucky if you see 5000 shares a day trading on a 10 dollar stock with 37M shares
Comment by Nununzac on Nov 05, 2010 3:16pm
True
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