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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum MGX Minerals Inc MGXMF

MGX Minerals Inc. is a Canada-based diversified resource and technology company with interests in advanced materials, metals, and energy technologies. The Company’s portfolios include Magnesium, Silicon, Lithium, Gold, and Silver. Its Magnesium projects include Driftwood Creek, Marysville, Red Mountain Group and Botts Lake. Its Silicon projects include Gibraltar, Koot and Wonah. Its Lithium... see more

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MGX Minerals Inc > WHAT SALTS ARE BEST FOR FUELS ?
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Post by Wangotango67 on Jan 04, 2023 1:45am

WHAT SALTS ARE BEST FOR FUELS ?

Does one do the same as corn fuels ?
Tap into food supplies and use a portion to mix with petro or would this place a strain on the corn crops and prices rise ?


Would using plain sodium salt be a good idea ?
Lots sodium salt worldwide.
But... global salt reserves would rise in price.


How about Potassium ?
Again,  it would distrupt the fertilizer industries.


One would need to focus on other salts....
Where it would not distrupt but allow a complimentry to exisiting sectors without a conflict.
Other salts would allow exclusivisity where regulated markets could control fuel product.


- zincs
- magnesium
- manganese
- lithium
- calcium  ( there's an abundance of calcium deposits - yet - cement + pharma industry affected )
- aluminum  ( using this mineral would interfere with - aluminum industry )

Keep in mind - some oxide salts need to be alters by way of acids to form into salt crystals.

Question is ?
Which salt would provide a optimal - electrolysis - whereas,
greater production of hydrogen occurs ?
Testing various salts, amounts of salts, and different hydrogen fuel cells would be needed.

EAMPLE - 
Finding a perferred salt that readily and easily assists the action of electrolysis would allowed
easier production of, hydrogen.

- Is nano salts better when solubilized with water = better molecule bond pairing ?
- do certain salts bond with more oxygen and hydrogen = offering more gaseous horse power ?
- would specific anodes and cathodes allow for optimal hydrogen production ? ( yes )
-
- would a bicarbonate salt be better ?
- some might say... it has a carbon - yes, it does... but could offer more punch power.
  but on the flip side... carbon deposits would foul engines just as buring petro fuel does.
 

- could an additional device be made whereas, after hydrogen is produced  on demand another 
   device couples several hydrogen molecules together - compounding 
= creating more gaseous horsepower ?

- As mentioned in previous posts, PEM filters and PEM coatings also enhance electrolysis.

- Magnests also induce the production of electrolysis - hydrogen.

What about a - hydrogen fuel cell that also spit the - OXYGEN -
would a hybrid fuel cell come intop play - where one could use both hydrogen + oxygen ?
 

Basic sodium salt - only has a singular bond with hydrogen.
While, magnesium creates a double bond.  ( hydroxide )  could this offer double the power ? 
Yet.. magnesium can be reduced down to a single bond. 

To my surprise - calcium lime offers significant advantages in hydrogen production -
Would be nice to see a University do a repeat on this calcium lime electrolysis test.

Most Efficient Electrolyte for Hydrogen Production through Electrolysis
Objectives/Goals This study determined which electrolyte from iodized table salt, baking soda, calcium chloride, sea salt, and lye was most efficient in harnessing hydrogen through electrolysis.

The hypothesis was that the iodized table salt would help produce the most hydrogen. Methods/Materials A 5% solution of each electrolyte was made and brought to a temperature of 38 degrees Celsius.

Electric current from a 9 volt battery was passed through 400ml of solution using copper wires attached to graphite rods as electrodes for 5 minutes. The hydrogen was captured by a test tube also filled with the solution that was placed over the negatively charged graphite rod.

The hydrogen was measured by drawing a line on the test tube and measuring the amount of water filling up to that line in milliliters.

This procedure was repeated 5 times for each electrolyte. Results On average

calcium chloride harnessed 1.8ml of hydrogen
baking soda 3.1ml
sea salt 6.6ml
iodized table salt 6.74ml
lye harnessed an average of 17.94ml.

Lye was the most efficient electrolyte.

Conclusions/Discussion Lye was the most efficient of those tested, harnessing over twice the hydrogen that iodized table salt did. But lye is more than twice as expensive as iodized table salt, making iodized table salt the most economical choice.

This is an important factor given that one of the biggest problems with clean hydrogen is cost. At the moment gasoline is the cheapest, most readily available way of powering our vehicles, but with increasing oil prices and negative impact on the environment, gasoline may soon no longer be an option.

Hydrogen energy is a possible solution to this problem, and the cleanest way of obtaining hydrogen is through electrolysis.

https://csef.usc.edu/History/2012/Projects/J0617.pdf



I will add....
Some hydrogen vehicles don't burn hydrogen directly. 
They end up charging a the massive battery.
Utterly rediculous. 
A doubling up effect - pointless.

Keeping it simple, is best.
Fuel cylenders preloaded with salt water + alcohols to prevent freezing.
Fuel cells( gov't licensed and leased )  to split salt mixtures.
Exisiting fuel stations are converted or repurposed
Distribution industry can still exist - maintains jobs for transportation of, fuels to stations.

Gaseous fuel is produced on demand in vehicle
Small preasurized tank to hold reserves.
Safer
Quicker

No Giga factories
No Charge station roll out that never offer optimal site locations of convenience
No wait for fuel ups - as most wait when charging an ev car.
Salt fuel cells are most likely better in colder climates

The Billion dollar question is ?
Could the industry make a 180 and place all focus on salt fuel cells ? 

Canada's Arrow ev car, is apparently an assemblage of various auto parts, from exisiting auto suppliers. 

I will say,  the shell ( exterior ) and interior are -  very nice.
And like any car manufactuer, it's not that hard to modify and accommodate new ( guts ) for the engine.  

Gov't wouldn't need to build the extra plants for batteries, nor for the recycling.
Exisitng ( motor manufacturers ) are already online. 

Copper industry, would revert back to normal whereas, copper is maintained for mainly housing or standard electrical... etc... No ramp up needed to fulfill the shortfall of copper for all the ev vehicles - hydrogen would eliminate all this.


Cheers....
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