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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Kontrol Technologies Corp N.KNR

Alternate Symbol(s):  KNRLF

Kontrol Technologies Corp. is a provider of energy management, continuous air quality and emission solutions to commercial and industrial consumers. It delivers building intelligence through the Internet of things (IoT), software and cloud technology as well as project integration. Its smart technology is deployed to customers through a cloud-based interface accessible on desktops and mobile... see more

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Kontrol Technologies Corp > Intrinsic Value of KNR
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Post by Microcapkid on Nov 29, 2020 8:12am

Intrinsic Value of KNR

I notice a lot of the discussion is centered on news releases and share price "pumps." While fun and exciting, as a person who has been in KNR since sub $1, I would like to start a conversation centered on what we conservatively believe to be the underlying value of this business. At the end of the day this is a flesh and blood business with real revenue and, as we all know, tremendous potential. This is my assessment and I would like to hear from others:

I see this as two engines: (1) The primary business, (2) BioCloud

(1) The primary business 

Paul has said, for nearly a year now that the company is seeking to grow to $100 million in revenue over the next few years. While quite a feat, this company started at $1 million in revenue in 2016 to $16 million in revenue in 2020. Even at a finished growth rate, it is not inconceivable for them to reach their stated goal by 2023/2024. 


Paul has also stated, repeatedly, that at 50-100 million in revenue businesses in this space become takeout targets by the likes of Honeywell, Jonson Controls, etc. at an industry standard of between 3-4 times revenue, this business, in 3 to 4 years time should be worth between 150 and 400 million, without BioCloud. This is what piqued my interest in the stock when it was a $30 million market cap company. Sadly, I found out about the company when it was a $10 million market cap but really took time to do some DD before pulling the trigger. 


(2) BioCloud 

This is the wild card that brought a lot of you here. I remember people building "models" for a higher price based on 20,000 units per month (max capacity) and $12,000 per unit (full price). Both of these are extreme and optimistic. Let us be conservative:

5,000 units per month (25% of stated capacity) at $6,000 per unit (half price). I'll also assume the provide replacement cartridges at 0 profit just to be excessively cautious. This brings us to $360 million in revenue, without the core business's $16 million. At $376 million in revenue this can conceivably be a $1 billion dollar company (call it $30 per share give or take a few dollars). 


The issue we must consider is timing..tomorrow is a quarterly earnings release, hopefully we also get more guidance concerning BioCloud, but from what we know id say things are moving in the right direction. The reality is that the average "100 bagger" takes between 16 and 30 years to develop. That doesn't mean it can't and hasn't happened sooner, but even if you conservatively assume this can become a billion dollar company, does it matter if the developments are this week or next week? It doesn't to me. I think everyone in here would be happy if someone who was omnipotent told you your investment would be worth 10x in 2-3 years...if we all agree this at least has a greater than 50/50 probability, then this week or next week are irrelevant provided you trust management and the business. 


curious what other assessments are.

-MicroCapKid

Comment by wilander on Nov 29, 2020 9:30am
Totally agree on most of this. I am one of those though who got wind of the company because of the covid idea they were developing and it was my main point to get in.   A friend who knows people at the company alerted me. (First stock I have ever bought on the CSE too as I abhor the hype and pump of these types of exchanges.  I am more of a conservative investor and don't look ...more  
Comment by canyousayiii on Nov 29, 2020 10:10am
I got my initial position in the summer and bought more even higher than today. When I got the whiff of the covid angle, I was sceptical but then looked at their financials and they were great. Without BioCloud, it may have been low key but it would have gotten noticed over time and until then it would have been dirt cheap like it was before BioCloud. Nobody really talks about DCBO much on these ...more  
Comment by cactuseskimo on Nov 29, 2020 11:15am
Yep, when you're so excited about the upcoming week of a stock that you are pretty much wishing the weekend away - that says something!
Comment by wilander on Nov 29, 2020 11:45am
Right?  And the BEST part?   We will know by the end of December or most likely earlier in the month!!! I am not betting on any particular day for the dam to break....tomorrow, this week, or next, but I AM confident we will know during this month of December.  Either way.  Good or bad. Sales and only sales tells the tale from herein.  And I am confident we will be ...more  
Comment by Freddy6980 on Nov 29, 2020 9:46am
This is a billion dollar company in 2021 and gets bought out this coming year. Cliff notes assessment 
Comment by BCdude on Nov 29, 2020 1:24pm
Great post, Microcapkid. I've made efforts over the last three months to put a value on Kontrol, and while my numbers have varied slightly from yours, my conclusions were similar. I prefer taking a conservative approach, as I prefer my surprises to come on the upside. :) My base case is that biocloud is modestly successful but takes a little longer to roll out than most people think, which I ...more  
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