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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Noranda Income Fund Unit NNDIF

Noranda Income Fund is a Canadian based income trust. The fund owns the electrolytic zinc processing facility and ancillary assets located in Salaberry-de-Valleyfield, Quebec. It produces refined zinc metal and by-products from sourced zinc concentrates. The fund's long-term objective is to maximize unitholder value and provide monthly distributions to unitholders.

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Post by stopedout on May 13, 2020 8:49pm

Cash flow

First look cash flow of US$19.45 million before changes in working capitlal for a company trading with a market cap of C$60 million makes me glad I bought back at $1.20 last week but can't help but think that the stock goes down due to the Glencore/Covid effect. Not sure which is a bigger negative the Glencore or the Covid.
Comment by Finalsay on May 13, 2020 9:16pm
Did they report something related to the glencore/covid that you didn't expct?
Comment by Finalsay on May 13, 2020 9:35pm
Someone had previously dropped the TD Resarch for Noranda post Q4 earnings. Q1 2020 estimates were as follows: Adjusted EBITDA =  14.5 Zinc Metal Premium = 0.065 Zinc Price = 0.97 Copper Price = 2.6 Sulphuric Acid Netbacks = 55 By-Product Revenues = 7.8 Q1 2020 reported results: Adjusted EBITDA = 17.2 million Zinc Metal Premium = 0.07 (though MDA only goes to one decimal place ...more  
Comment by stopedout on May 14, 2020 9:15am
I am referring to general downward pressure on the stock market and on zinc markets by covid, combined with the uncertainty of not knowing the details of the concentrate purchase agreement with Glencore. The stock at $1.20 is trading at half the current working capital.
Comment by ZincDink1 on May 14, 2020 4:12pm
Sounds like zinc markets have picked up in China. I think we should move into the 1.5 range at least, though without the divy, one wonders why hold this.
Comment by Finalsay on May 15, 2020 10:24am
Last 3 quarters EBITDA of 23.3, 14.9, and 19.5 million. Think one of the investors who asked einarson a question on th earnings call mentioned BVPS of $5 at $1.1. You'd think buying at these valuations is a steal, but market seems completely disinterested in this stock. Hard to see any catalyst moving this stock significantly. Maybe zinc prices increasing substantially, or a huge ramp up in ...more  
Comment by Finalsay on May 15, 2020 10:26am
At this point I feel like a reinstatement of the dividend is the only chance of seeing this stock return to a fair valuation. 
Comment by Northforce13 on May 16, 2020 8:51pm
I think what is needed is for an activist investor to come along and clean out the board of directors. Replacing them with people who actually owned shares and paid attention to what share holders want would do wonders for the stock price.   The so called "independent directors" aren't doing anything useful for us.   Tell Glencore that as owners of the company ...more  
Comment by JasonBilly on May 17, 2020 8:49am
Another constant refrain that has been repeated for years. I'm not giving you a hard time; if I'm giving anyone a hard time, it's myself. Every time the shares spike to reach my break-even point I tell myself I'm going to sell and invest in a company that I know is going to pay a dividend or distribution. But I don't. Maybe next time.
Comment by JCW on May 17, 2020 11:03am
My story too.....next time....for sure!!!
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