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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Noranda Income Fund Unit NNDIF

Noranda Income Fund is a Canadian based income trust. The fund owns the electrolytic zinc processing facility and ancillary assets located in Salaberry-de-Valleyfield, Quebec. It produces refined zinc metal and by-products from sourced zinc concentrates. The fund's long-term objective is to maximize unitholder value and provide monthly distributions to unitholders.

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Noranda Income Fund Unit > Noranda Outlook
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Post by Bwrbhk on Aug 15, 2022 12:41pm

Noranda Outlook

At June 30, 2022 the book value of the company was US $185.5 million or US$3.71/share.  At todays exchange rate that is equivalent to CDN $4.71/share.  Why are the shares trading at a 75% discount to book value?  In four of the last 5 years (2017 to 2021) the company lost money and the cumulative net loss was $65 million. In the first half of 2022, the company posted a profit of $59.1 million, which almost wiped out the cumulative losses over the past 5 years.  Looking ahead over the next several quarters, Noranda will likely post significantly higher earnings because of higher TC's, high zinc premiums and hopefully a resolution of their operating issues.  As the company posts positive quarterly earnings, the discount to book value will likely decline.  Also, should Glencore decide to make a takeover offer, it would be difficult to justify an offer a less than book value.
Comment by schocor on Aug 15, 2022 1:54pm
This issue is that they can't actually run their plant well at the moment. The $4+ book value is - in my mind - probably a little low when you want to look at replacing a refinery of this size in todays dollars.  There is alot to be done at this company before we see share price appreciation. 
Comment by ljp0101 on Aug 16, 2022 7:44am
NIF is sitting on a huge hedging loss in Q3 even with the price move today. TCRCs don't really matter quarter to quarter. Book value isn't synonymous with liqudiation value. Book is on a going concern basis and doesn't reflect the cost of shutting down CEZ, which management has suggested is substantial due to environmental remediation. I'm somewhat skeptical of this argument but ...more  
Comment by Scotch12 on Aug 16, 2022 9:12am
LJP I don't buy the book value argument either but more so because you can get fair value for the smelter because of Glencore. It is a company of dubious ethics that has no compunction abut screwing the shareholders.   Glencore paid well over a billion dollars US in fines last year.   https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/glencore-entered-guilty-pleas-foreign-bribery-and-market ...more  
Comment by ljp0101 on Sep 10, 2022 7:53am
Probably wouldn't get involved again; CEZ is a decent smelter with some long term structural advantages and I though there was good optionality in the stock around the top of the cycle medium term and China smelting cost structure moving up long term. NIF is easily worth >5/share with control and my basis is ~20% of that so I thought it was decent value. My mistake was underestimating the ...more  
Comment by Bwrbhk on Sep 21, 2022 11:54am
One additional bullish factor for Noranda is the weak Canadian dollar.  All of Noranda's sales are in US dollars and most of their costs (Approximately 75 to 80%) are in Canadian dollars.  In the first half of 2022, the CDN/US $ exchage rate was $0.79 and the current rate is just under $0.75 or about 5% lower. On an annual basis, each 1% change impacts pretax earnings and cash flow ...more  
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