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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Oncolytics Biotech Inc ONCY


Primary Symbol: T.ONC

Oncolytics Biotech Inc. is a clinical-stage biotechnology company. The Company is focused on developing pelareorep, an intravenously delivered immunotherapeutic agent that activates the innate and adaptive immune systems and weakens tumor defense mechanisms. This compound induces anti-cancer immune responses and promotes an inflamed tumor phenotype turning cold tumors hot through innate and... see more

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Oncolytics Biotech Inc > Let’s keep the information as real as we can…why not
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Post by canadafan on Apr 23, 2023 10:34am

Let’s keep the information as real as we can…why not

First, one individual saying " he believes the results will be delayed" certainly does not make it so.
His closing remarks about " selling this pos" cements his motives.
Recently, I posted a fair & very inclusive review of Onc.  Within it they gave various scenarios & view points of comparables.
using their mid point target of mid $8ps etc etc.
That said, why would anyone sell Onc " now".
The SP is near historical lows. Meaning downside very limited.
While at the same time , the upside is " potentially " beyond any prediction.
the lead/ jones & gable report with its mid $8 target.
Is using a relatively low discount. That discount rate on phase 3 partnership easily doubles the prediction to $16 PS.
They re using forward income projections, to come up with present day valuations.
the further out the income & the more uncertainty, the greater the target is discounted.
Lin business it's called " doubt = discount "
Will they delay results ..again? I have no idea of predicting that. Since the results PFS, is a time based outcome, I doubt it.
Time is a constant, so far we have not been able to change.
so, enjoy your week. 

I know it is a very hard concept for some. The trading SP, has zero to do with future prtership or buyout opportunities.
both of those come from the science & it's potential value to the aquiring pharma.
RBC has said from day 1, that Pelareorep has a market potential of $5billion/year. ....once approved etc.
That being for MBc only. Not counting any if the recent G.I. Cancer opportunities.
THAT , is what a pharma partner looks at. The trading SP is 100% irrelevant to them.
The income potential is 100% what they look at.
Coming a full circle : ASCO is weeks away.
management has repeatedly said they expect to release good results then.
Absouloutly a high risk investment. Most junior biotechs are.
The down side? I think even in a fire sale the company is worth more than it is trading at, just for tax loss accumulation.
The upside? Pick a number.

Comment by fox7mf on Apr 23, 2023 11:29am
SP kinda matters when you're supposedly approaching a BD deal, you're hoping for multi billions in said deal, and your SP is floundering at $1.60 cad. Can mgmt bring any shareholder value? 
Comment by KTDfyi on Apr 23, 2023 11:33am
Canadafan keep up the good work. I for one really appreciate some common sense and the factual information that you are providing. Of course I'd like things to happen sooner rather than later. I think that's just human nature. There is risk, yet I feel that the risk has substantially reduced. I'm expecting good data. I think there are many reasons for the SP being where it is. As a ...more  
Comment by Lesalpes29 on Apr 23, 2023 11:38am
We need P3 or double P3 to see the SP explod! You are rehashing the same comments over and over but in the end you are not going to see a buyout in billions without P3 and a share price moving accordignily before. Will be happy to be proven wrong of course! GL 
Comment by Lesalpes29 on Apr 23, 2023 11:57am
Canadafan is not able to see anything negative about ONC/ONCY, that's it! 
Comment by Lesalpes29 on Apr 23, 2023 11:58am
Just voted against the gift of options! GL
Comment by fox7mf on Apr 23, 2023 12:47pm
Agreed. No options grant for a job poorly done, on the business development side of things. A $10b usd b/o is approximately $145 a share, fully diluted. Explain how Oncy gets to that price tag. 
Comment by KTDfyi on Apr 23, 2023 1:36pm
Over time is the answer. Maybe not the answer your looking for. Just my opinion. SP is what it is. They stated that they knew they had to get the SP up to a reasonable level before any deal. It's been low volume lately. I don't like the SP either, yet I don't feel it is an indication of what is to come. Undervalued. Until something of substance ie ASCO or other data. This is the way it ...more  
Comment by Quentin30 on Apr 23, 2023 5:07pm
The current pps has EVERYTHING to do with the buyout price...  Are you actually trying to convince readers on this board that the price will 20x overnight..?? Canadafan... year after year you spout the same fantasy... anyone listening to you would have lost a most of their investment... you and noteable are either paid shills or fantasists. we will know soon enough, but no-one is coming to ...more  
Comment by canadafan on Apr 24, 2023 10:22am
You need to read investopedia " valuations of biotechs" nice read..... contrary to your belief, the SP has zero to do with calculated value of ANY company. what, is the most valuable consideration is the expected potential income. THAT is what is being bought. Take some time, don't believe me ( which you make great efforts to discredit). go to investopedia. they give 3-4 Methods of ...more  
Comment by Lesalpes29 on Apr 24, 2023 10:28am
We have the same thinking... no buyout in billions without a SP already over 10$ US. Thank you!
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