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Oncolytics Biotech Inc. is a biotechnology company. The Company is focused on developing pelareorep, an intravenously delivered immunotherapeutic agent that activates the innate and adaptive immune systems and weakens tumor defense mechanisms. This compound induces anti-cancer immune responses and promotes an inflamed tumor phenotype turning cold tumors hot through innate and adaptive immune... see more

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Oncolytics Biotech Inc > Pelareorep in 3rd line HR+/HER2 negative breast cancer
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Post by Noteable on Sep 15, 2024 4:43pm

Pelareorep in 3rd line HR+/HER2 negative breast cancer

ONCY should easily be able to enroll 180-200 patients for its Phase2b -> Phase3 -> Confirmatory metastatic breast cancer patients since there is a significant unmet need for patients who will progress from Enhertu 2nd line therapy.

Given the unmet medical need in 3rd line mBC that pelareorep + paclitaxel is seeking to address, ONCY is looking to enroll study patients in the United States and EU - so there should be plenty of available clinical trial participants.
 
Adding to the straightforwardness of ONCY enrolling patients into their Phase2 -> Confirmatory trial includes factors such as:  (1) patients who have progressed from Enhertu will already have been identified as those who are eligible for 3rd line pelareorep + paclitaxel treatment making it a seamless transition from the ADC treatment to pelareorep, and (2) patients will be recruited from the United States and the EU, where patients populations are high and where patient types are diverse and demonstrated to have responded to pelareorep in several clinical trials already performed. Therefore the number of 180-200 should be easy to reach by ONCY or whatever Big Pharma company that acquires ONCY and runs the trial themselves.

ONCY will NOT be dealing with a different patient population than that trialed in the Phase 2 IND-213 and Bracelet-1 clinical trials. ONCY will be dealing with the same patient population who have failed a 2nd line breast cancer therapy, whether it was CDK4,6 inhibitors or ADC Enhertu, whose active payload is a chemotherapy - the same therapies that pelareorep was up against in various other completed ONCY trials in which pelareorep had successfully achieved effective results.
 
So those patients who have failed Enhertu will have already been identified as eligible pelareorep ready patients. Consequently clinical trial enrollment should be relatively easy by ONCY or the Big Pharma who acquires ONCY and runs the trial towards an accretive Accelerated Approval that would potentially be subsequently followed by a full approval on the same trial data.

In 2022, there were 2.3 million women diagnosed with breast cancer and 670 000 deaths globally.

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/breast-cancer

In 2024 approximately 310,720 women and 2,800 men will be diagnosed with invasive breast cancer in the United States.

There are currently more than 4 million women with a history of breast canacer in the United States. This includes women who are being treated and women who have finished treatment.

https://www.breastcancer.org/facts-statistics

In 2022, approximately 604,900 women were diagnosed with breast cancer in the WHO Europe region. Incidence in the EU-27 in 2022 was estimated to be 375,000

https://www.europadonna.org/breast-cancer/

Breast cancer is the most common cancer diagnosed in women in North America. Hormone receptor positive (HR+) and HER2 negative (HER2−) breast cancers account for at least 60% to 70% of all breast cancer.
cases.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8188964/

Consequently, based on 2022 numbers, approximately 685,700 women were diagnosed with invasive breast cancer just in the United States and the EU -27. With HR+/HER2 negative accounting for approximately 65% of all breast cancers - approximately 446,000 women will be diagnosed each year with HR+/HER2 negative breast cancer in the US and EU-27.

Out of the approximate 446,000  women newly diagnosed HR+/HER2 negative breast cancer each year, ONCY has estimated that approximately 55,000 of these women will progress to 3rd line mBC therapy which ONCY has stated will be eligible for pelareorep (monotherapy) + paclitaxel treatment.

ONCY should be able to eadily enroll 180-200 patients for its Phase2b -> Phase3 -> Confirmatory metastatic breast cancer patients since there is a significant unmet need for patients who will progress from Enhertu 2nd line therapy.

Presently overall survival data has from ONCY’s  BRACELET-1 metastatic breast cancer Phase 2 study continued to mature, suggesting overall survival (OS) 2+ year data should reflect the statistical significance seen in the 12 month, and showing the clinical benefit that the FDA is needing to grant pelareorep an Accelerated Approval in 3rd line mBC. 

12 month data from the BRACELET-1 study has already validated the results of IND-213, a prior phase 2 trial that showed a statistically significant which demonstrated a near doubling of median overall survival in HR+/HER2- metastatic breast cancer patients treated with pelareorep combined with paclitaxel (21.0 months, n = 28) vs. those treated with paclitaxel alone (10.8 months, n = 29).

An ASCO Meeting Abstract from the 2022 ASCO Annual Meeting has cited that the average cost for the first year of HR+/HER2 negative was US$192,367 per patient. With ONCY stating that approximately 55,000 women would become eligible for 3rd line pelareorep + paclitaxel treatment, and a per patient cost of US$192K, this patient group would translate into approximately US$10.56 Billion in annual sales for pelareorep or a significant percentage of this gross sales value, in HR+/Her2 – mBC, that  ONCY or a Big Pharma acquirer of ONCY would seek to achieve.

https://ascopubs.org/doi/10.1200/JCO.2022.40.16_suppl.e18834

The long view is eventually moving pelareorep into first line therapy in combination with a variation of immune checkpoint inhibitors +/-  bispecifics +/- ADCs  +/-  small molecule inhibitors  +/-  CAR-T therapy, for example.
Comment by Noteable on Sep 15, 2024 4:46pm
this patient group would translate into approximately US$10.56 Billion in annual sales for pelareorep or a significant percentage of this gross sales value
Comment by Noteable on Sep 15, 2024 6:06pm
While the ASCO Meeting Abstract from the 2022 ASCO Annual Meeting has cited that the average cost for the first year of HR+/HER2 negative was US$192,367 per patient, it also referenced that the 2nd year of treament cost for HR+/HER2 negative breast cancer would be approximately US$169,0000 per patient for those who benefited from treatment and continued on with their lives. The third ...more  
Comment by inthno on Sep 16, 2024 8:33pm
That would be nice but a lot of if's but let's first get a trial approved before we get ahead of ourselves as we have done this before getting our hopes up. Big thing out of this is that the company has never run a quick trial and if it does not get started until sometime in 2025 depending upon enrollment and then waiting for results from let's say the first 100 patients to show some ...more  
Comment by inthno on Sep 16, 2024 8:33pm
That would be nice but a lot of if's but let's first get a trial approved before we get ahead of ourselves as we have done this before getting our hopes up. Big thing out of this is that the company has never run a quick trial and if it does not get started until sometime in 2025 depending upon enrollment and then waiting for results from let's say the first 100 patients to show some ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Sep 16, 2024 9:58pm
Unfortunately most of the stuff that you posted is incorrect, starting with your claim that these 3rd line patients are immune compromised. Simply wrong. 
Comment by inthno on Sep 16, 2024 10:13pm
Well that is most interesting as it has always been stated that we felt that 1st line patients would most likely do better as they had a stronger immune system compared to patients that had gone through previous chemo and were therefore had a more compromised immune system. So note u are saying that 3rd line patients immune systems are as good as 1st line. Hmmm
Comment by Noteable on Sep 16, 2024 11:23pm
Once again the 3rd line patients are not immune compromised as you have tried to improperly construe. But hey, at least you recognize that an Accelerated Approval is probable on the matured overall survival data emerging from the completed Phase 2 Bracelet-1 mBC clinical trial whereby the surrogate endpoints of ORR, PFS and mOS were achieved in the treatment arm beyond what the paclitaxel control ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Sep 16, 2024 11:43pm
Multiple courses of chemotherapy are required to become immune compromised. Those eligible patients who will go into the ONCY Phase 2b->Phase3->Confirmatory clinical trial will have failed both hormone and 2nd line ADC therapy and could not have had more than one course of the ADC Enhertu treatment. These strict trial inclusion conditions preclude the enrollment of compromised patients who ...more  
Comment by inthno on Sep 17, 2024 8:52am
This might be a meaning back and forth as I always thought that AA was possible with the right trial setup and at least you have finally recognized that AA was not possible with the previous trials that onc had done as you had always touted that they were applying for AA with the results they had so at least we are getting somewhere. So moving on As for how quickly they could enrol is subjective ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Sep 17, 2024 9:50am
ONCY  has unequivocally stated that it would be seeking Accelerated Approval in this "adaptive" Phase2b->Phase3->Confirmatory trial given that the surrogate endpoint of progression free survival (PFS) will be the primary objective. ONCY has the capacity to conduct this trial on its own OR a Big Pharma may become involved instead. An Accelerated Approval request can be made as ...more  
Comment by inthno on Sep 17, 2024 10:07am
That would be great if they could apply for AA by the end of this year. Can u tell me where they said that so I can add it to my library of information. I do know in the recent fireside that I just listened to that kirk stated that they could apply for AA during the new trial but it would be a function of the results at that time and not a given that the fda would accept that. And no where in the ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Sep 17, 2024 10:28am
Da_man/inthno keep on thinking what you want to think. The Bracelet-1 OS clinical benefit will dictate what comes next. Since your thinking has been quite contentious and set in concrete, nothing much will change your mind now. You Homer, should spend some time and Google to see that nobody has been eating either cats or dogs in Sprinfield. Bye
Comment by inthno on Sep 17, 2024 10:50am
No problem, I guess what u r telling me is u don't know the answer which is fine. And t least I m realistic and give both sides  chance. Go he'd ND keep posting redundant material and.talking about 10 billion dollar buy outs.
Comment by Quentin30 on Sep 17, 2024 2:50pm
ithno, the timeline for AA will be H1 2026 at the very best.  1) trial has to start - Q2 2025 given history of oNCY is reasonable. 2) they need enough statisically relevant data, and again 3) the differentiator between PFS for Pela+Pax and Pax alone is 3 months, 9 MO PFS for the former, 6 Mo for the latter 4) So patients will need to have been on study for 9 months min to show this ...more  
Comment by inthno on Sep 17, 2024 3:10pm
Quentin your timelines are more than reasonable given the history of onc and I have expressed similar to Notable although for some reason this person thinks that they willl apply for AA after the mbc bracelet os comes out. Also one thing to remember is that when the trial is up and going and they have their first set of results that there is no guarantee that the fda will approve AA so all must be ...more  
Comment by Buckhenry on Sep 17, 2024 5:55pm
Ole unnoteable just can stand it when someone has a different opinion or thought. He strongly believes in DEI as long as you agree with everything he says. He has become the term that just won't flush. 
Comment by Noteable on Sep 17, 2024 5:04pm
https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard?symbol=oncy&postid=36227894
Comment by Buckhenry on Sep 16, 2024 11:42pm
One would incorrectly think that ole unnoteable is head of oncology at John's Hopkins... but he just another investor that invests his money wishfully and backs it up with Google and AI searches and has to post many times daily to keep his ego stoked... just look how long he has been pushing this stock...  he should have bought nividia or one of the magnificent seven years ago instead ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Sep 18, 2024 11:52am
Post by Noteable on Sep 15, 2024 4:43pm Pelareorep in 3rd line HR+/HER2 negative breast cancer ONCY should easily be able to enroll 180-200 patients for its Phase2b -> Phase3 -> Confirmatory metastatic breast cancer patients since there is a significant unmet need for patients who will progress from Enhertu 2nd line therapy. Given the unmet medical need in 3rd line mBC that ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Sep 18, 2024 12:56pm
An ASCO Meeting Abstract from the 2022 ASCO Annual Meeting has cited that the average cost for the first year of HR+/HER2 negative was US$192,367 per patient. With ONCY stating that approximately 55,000 women would become eligible for 3rd line pelareorep + paclitaxel treatment, and a per patient cost of US$192K, this patient group would translate into approximately US$10 ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Sep 18, 2024 8:21pm
Since some have difficulty seeing, I'll repost the following assessment for their benefit... ONCY should easily be able to enroll 180-200 patients for its Phase2b -> Phase3 -> Confirmatory metastatic breast cancer patients since there is a significant unmet need for patients who will progress from Enhertu 2nd line therapy. Given the unmet medical need in 3rd line mBC that pelareorep ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Sep 18, 2024 9:13pm
September 18, 2024 - Post ESMO 2024 Dr. Alessandra Curioni-Fontecedro, professor of oncology at the University of Fribourg and director of oncology at the Hospital of Fribourg, Switzerland, made the following observation "At ESMO 2024 we are seeing many studies in many different cancers showing that immunotherapy can work for a long time." Improved overall survival with ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Sep 19, 2024 12:35pm
September 19, 2024 - At the Cantor Fiztgerald Global Healthcare Conference fireside chat today, ONCY's Kirk Look stated that the company only targeted & modeled the market size for pelareorep + paclitaxel treatment in the United States - with 55,000 HR+/HER2- patients in the US  as the patient population target for pelareorep.  The 55,000 HR+/HER2- patients modeled for 3rd line ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Sep 19, 2024 6:19pm
Demand is hot for big results in key markets like mBC with an unmet treatment need.  As for Big Pharma, the emphasis now is on finding therapies that have been de-risked with human data, as ONCY has been demonstrating over time, and as had been accomplished and reported on today in HR+/HER2- Breast Cancer. Analysis shows that around 122,000  HR+/HER2- mBC patients will be  ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Sep 25, 2024 4:49pm
FACT: In 2022, there were 2.3 million women diagnosed with breast cancer and 670 000 deaths globally. https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/breast-cancer In 2024 approximately 310,720 women and 2,800 men will be diagnosed with invasive breast cancer in the United States. There are currently more than 4 million women with a history of breast canacer in the United States ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Sep 25, 2024 5:11pm
The reported incidence of breast cancer is currently based on 2022 numbers,which approximates 685,700 women being diagnosed with invasive breast cancer just in the United States and the EU -27. On 2022 global numbers -  HR+/HER2 negative breasat cancer accounts for approximately 65% of all breast cancers (60-70%), thus translating into approximately 446,000 women who are diagnosed each year ...more  
Comment by Noteable on Sep 25, 2024 5:49pm
The patent expiry date for Daichii-Sanyo / AstraZeneca's antibody-drug conjugate (ADC) Enhertu (T-DM1) in Europe was June 2020. The patent is set to expire in September 2026
Comment by Noteable on Sep 25, 2024 10:25pm
Correction: Enhertu (trastuzumab deruxtecan) is T-DMx while Kadcyla (trastuzumab emtansine) is T-DM1.
Comment by Noteable on Sep 25, 2024 10:31pm
The Enhertu patent in the United States expires in November 2024. https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/seagen-awarded-418-million-royalties-enhertu-patent-case-against-daiichi-sankyo
Comment by Noteable on Sep 26, 2024 11:58am
Clarification: Enhertu (trastuzumab deruxtecan) is T-DXd
Comment by 13X2413 on Sep 26, 2024 2:24pm
Clarification: Down again today on a whopping 20,000 shares. No interest in what ONC allegedly has. 
Comment by Buckhenry on Sep 26, 2024 2:30pm
Putting all my hope in the analyst price targets????  Any word on that buyout unnoteable??
Comment by Noteable on Sep 25, 2024 5:59pm
Correction: Out of the approximate 446,000  women newly diagnosed with HR+/HER2 negative breast cancer globally each year, ONCY has estimated that approximately 55,000 women with HER2- mBC in the United States will progress to 3rd line mBC therapy which ONCY has stated will be eligible for pelareorep (monotherapy) + paclitaxel treatment.
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