Post by
oiltar on Jul 13, 2015 3:00pm
My thinking on Debeers and PGD
Debeers decided not to JV with PGD.But as we can now see in the numbers PGD is posting it is clear the pull out was not related to mine economics on Chidliak.It is my guess Anglo writing of $100s of millions on the Pebble deposit put Debeers in a place were unless Anglo could see the results of CH-6 would not want to take a $58 million write off if PGD failed to meet the numbers of economics.
Anglo share holders would call for blood to spill if so.But like a boy friend and girl friend who may have had a falling out but still got married later on anyway debeers is courting PGD again now that the numbers are in showing the highest IRR of any Canadian diamond mine bar none.The voucher in the DBC is proof the relationship is still on.
Debeers will need to come back to Chidliak so they can dove tail the Victors end of mine life with the start up of Chidliak.Debeer closing of Victors highest diamond quality supply in the world sets the stage for involvment in the high value stones in the CH-6.
But Debeers is not alone in needing PGDs high value diamonds.DDC can not expect high returns on the JAY pipe due to its poor quality.So like it or not we may have to flurt first to get married.But we will get married.But who will it be?
Comment by
shneps on Jul 13, 2015 5:19pm
Wow, there's an incredibly awkward silence. Maybe I should change my username to "Foot in Mouth". Sorry
Comment by
mrrbc on Jul 13, 2015 5:27pm
Welcome Shneps, the more members participating on the board the better. No need to apologize. I suspect the silence is because no one knows?
Comment by
Kodiboy on Jul 13, 2015 5:29pm
Just a pause in posting, nothing unusual and I don't think you said anything wrong or whatever. People don't usually respond if they don't know the answer to someone's question...new posters as far as I'm concerned, are a good thing.
Comment by
bludogg on Jul 13, 2015 6:34pm
question sir - where is Victor mine located???
Comment by
rsh on Jul 13, 2015 6:35pm
Victor(ia)!!! Just kidding: Northern Ontario near James Bay. Cheers.
Comment by
DCDRILL on Jul 13, 2015 7:30pm
Sorry, I guess we can't post pictures...here's a couple of links if anyone's interested:
https://www.ceaa-acee.gc.ca/050/details-eng.cfm?evaluation=80043
https://www.jewellerybusiness.com/newsletters/48-july-21-2008/682-de-beers-to-offer-10-per-cent-of-ontario-diamonds-to-sightholders
Comment by
Kodiboy on Jul 14, 2015 1:54am
Good to hear from you again Xdebeers! Miss your expertise on this forum....don't go away again, ya hear!!
Comment by
xDeBeers on Jul 14, 2015 7:04am
The best person to ask about the longevity of Victor would be Doug Winzar. He was the mine geologist in charge of proving up other kimberlites in the Attawapiskat cluster. He met his wife, Carmen on that project and had her working for him! I will ask him next time I see him since he no longer works for De Beers. Perhaps you flew Carmen and Doug around Shneps?
Comment by
shneps on Jul 14, 2015 11:07am
They can be a very secretive bunch at times. some won't even discuss names, occupation or reasons for being on site. You can gain a lot of info from over the shoulder lap top reads though.