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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum ProMIS Neurosciences Inc PMN

ProMIS Neurosciences Inc. is a clinical-stage biotechnology company. It is focused on generating and developing antibody therapeutics selectively targeting toxic misfolded proteins in neurodegenerative diseases such as Alzheimer’s disease (AD), amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS) and multiple system atrophy (MSA). Its proprietary target discovery engine applies a thermodynamic, computational... see more

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Post by goldtech on Jan 02, 2025 6:55pm

ARIA-E

If Brain bleeding is to be identified it will happen earl, my guess is 60 days and 2 dosing events. If we have no ARIA-E then we will have to measure the toxic oligomers and the cognition scale. If both those are successful we will have a mad rush of pharma's coming to court us on a JV. The more we do ourselves, the more they will pay. Exciting times ahead.
Comment by Hafness on Jan 02, 2025 8:01pm
I thought aria-e was ruled out in phase 1-a safety data?
Comment by goldtech on Jan 03, 2025 10:56am
Phase 1A was to identify any side effects in healthy patients, 1B will be infusing patients with Alzheimer's. If we do not remove monomers or placque and show specificity without any Aria , then we are on the right track.
Comment by Hafness on Jan 04, 2025 11:06am
aria-e would be a side effect in healthy subjects as well I would think. I pretty sure this would show up in 1-a. Aria is the number one issue with these drugs. They surely were looking for it. What am I missing.    here is a good article talking about aria https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3693547/
Comment by G1945V on Jan 05, 2025 7:43am
"aria-e would be a side effect in healthy subjects as well I would think." I don't see why not! I know from publications that before the trial begins, a baseline MRI scan is performed to establish a reference point for each healthy participant. During the trial, participants undergo MRI scans to monitor for any changes in the brain. This will detect any abnormalities, by observing ...more  
Comment by Gbathat on Jan 05, 2025 4:06pm
I think there was a publication in Science assessing the brain bleed effect of aducanumab or leqembi... something to do with plaques coating arteries in brain and plaque-targeting anti-bodies dislodging those bound plaques, weaking the wall structure, resulting in leaks. I'll try to find the article.
Comment by Gbathat on Jan 05, 2025 9:50pm
Here it is: https://www.science.org/content/article/clinical-trial-participants-autopsy-brain-exam-stoke-alzheimers-drug-fears? Most straight-forward explanation of how current antibody treatments from Biogen and others that also target plaque (unlike PMN310) can cause brain bleeding: ". In Alzheimer’s disease, beta amyloid accumulates between brain cells in hallmark deposits called ...more  
Comment by Hafness on Jan 06, 2025 11:31am
Nice. I will check it out
Comment by Hafness on Jan 07, 2025 3:03pm
Gavin Malenfant responded and said Aria was not studied during first trail 1a
Comment by G1945V on Jan 08, 2025 9:43am
If true, it would be a big mistake. ARIA is one of the biggest safety issues that PMN has been boasting about for years. G1945V
Comment by Gbathat on Jan 08, 2025 7:53pm
Testing for ARIA in healthy individuals would have been a big foolish mistake and waste of money. 
Comment by G1945V on Jan 08, 2025 8:23pm
WHY? G1945V
Comment by Speyeder999 on Jan 09, 2025 7:42am
On slide 14 of their most recent overview regarding Phase 1a, we find the mention No ARIA to be expected. So I'm confused. https://d1io3yog0oux5.cloudfront.net/_28c9a01cbe79b70ba7b8bd4e8fa5da15/promisneurosciences/db/933/8819/pdf/ProMIS+Corporate+Presentation+20240807.pdf How can you make this claim if you don't test for it? I thought that was the whole point of Phase 1a....  
Comment by BottomBroker on Jan 09, 2025 10:46am
From another slide further down in the presentation... ProMIS platform enabled generation of PMN310 which does not bind plaque or monomers, only oligomers Attempts by others to selectively target oligomers have failed. Most drugs are not able to distinguish the different forms of Aβ and therefore bind all three or at least two forms of Aβ Drugs that bind several forms of Aβ limit the amount of ...more  
Comment by G1945V on Jan 09, 2025 2:45pm
Yes. BB, I fully agree with your explanation. The binding of AB plaque is more commonly associated with causing ARIA-E. Since the trial involves healthy volunteers, the likelihood of developing ARIA-E might be lower compared to patients with the disease.  G1945V
Comment by Normandt on Jan 09, 2025 2:41pm
A Phase 1a, Double-Blind, Placebo-Controlled, Single Ascending Dose Study of the Safety, Tolerability and Pharmacokinetics of PMN310 Infusions in Healthy Volunteers (non alzheimer, then without amyloid plaques accumulation). Aria :Amyloid-related imaging abnormalities.