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Primary Symbol: V.PTK

POET Technologies Inc. is a design and development company. It offers high-speed optical engines, light source products and custom optical modules to the artificial intelligence (AI) systems market and to hyperscale data centers. Its photonic integration solutions are based on the POET Optical Interposer, a novel, patented platform that allows the integration of electronic and photonic devices... see more

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POET Technologies Ord Shs > 11,000 data centers worldwide
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Post by lscfa on Nov 03, 2024 3:00pm

11,000 data centers worldwide

Massive data-centre projects in Alberta line up to join grid.

Facilities would need more than 5,000 MW

In May, the Alberta Electric System Operator tracked several proposed data centres that wanted to connect to the province’s transmission system. If built, they’d need about 2,000 MW of electricity.

By September, the AESO’S list had grown to more than 3,000 MW.

In October, new projects joined the grid operator’s queue. According to industry experts, it pushes the total to more than 5,000 MW of load in AESO’S application lineup — highlighting a surge of interest in such initiatives in Alberta.

“There are data centres that have requested demand service to take power from the grid,” said Jason Comandante, senior vice-president with Edmonton-based Capital Power, one of the province’s largest electricity generators.

“They’re maybe not all going to come to fruition. But I think there are over five gigawatts of requests now and so you kind of compare that to our province (demand) peaking at 12 gigawatts.

“This is just an immense amount of potential load that needs to be served, and it’ll be served by generation that’s going to come from, among others, Capital Power.”

On Tuesday, some of the anticipated promise of data centres in Alberta turned into reality.

Montreal-based estruxture Data Centers unveiled plans to build a new $750-million Ai-focused facility north of Calgary in Rocky View County. The facility will draw 90 megawatts (MW) of power from the provincial grid.

Construction is expected to be completed in 2026.

Companies are eyeing Alberta for several reasons, including the availability of electricity, land and fibre-optic links.

Alberta also has the only deregulated electricity market in the country, which allows data centre operators to negotiate power purchase agreements with generators.

“We have in excess of 50 projects like this currently in the pipeline, and some of them are significant in size,” said Rick Christiaanse, CEO of Invest Alberta, which seeks to attract investment into the province.

“There are some projects out there that are just mind-blowing, in terms of the opportunities and in terms of the size and scope.”

Some projects being discussed combine data centres with new power generation, which could potentially sell any excess electricity into the grid, he added.

A report this month by the International Energy Agency says there are more than 11,000 data centres worldwide and their location is driven by proximity to infrastructure such as fibre optic cables, available electricity, customers and workers.

Decisions on where to build are also being impacted by incentives, regulations and climate, as cold weather leads to lower cooling needs for such facilities, it stated.

Alberta is home to 22 data centres, including 12 in Calgary and nine in Edmonton.

With the rise of artificial intelligence (AI), which has large power requirements, and the expansion of cloud computing, industry experts anticipate more announcements are coming.

“I’m aware of approximately 20 gigawatts of data centre interest in Alberta,” Utilities Minister Nathan Neudorf said earlier this month.

“I do not believe that we will attract all of that, nor necessarily should we.”

Earlier this year, the province set up a cabinet committee to streamline the approval process and attract such investment, saying it would create jobs and demand for natural gas — although many customers are seeking clean energy or long-term decarbonization plans.

Creating additional load in Alberta also means more customers would spread out the fixed costs of transmission and distribution on a larger base.

“It’s very reasonable and realistic that Alberta could attract up to $100 billion in data centre and related infrastructure investment over the next five years,” Technology Minister Nate Glubish said Tuesday.

The province is working on a formal policy to support data centre investment, to ensure there’s an efficient approval process in place.

After a period of tight supplies last winter and this spring, marked by several grid alerts, the province is shifting into a period of surplus power with the recent, and imminent, addition of gas-fired generating units and renewable projects.

The province wants

to attract data centres, but Glubish is encouraging developers to have their own off-grid infrastructure, which would speed up the approval process.

“We welcome this investment, and we want Alberta to be a destination of choice, but you’ve got to bring your own power,” he added.

“We will never make a decision related to data centre investment attraction that would ever destabilize our electricity grid.”

On the latest AESO preliminary connection list, one project in the Fort Saskatchewan area is listed as having 1,800 MW of load.

Two other major proposals also in the lineup are listed as the Genesee Data Centre — one for 1,000 MW of power, and another for 500 MW.

The Genesee Generating Station, west of Edmonton, is owned and operated by Capital Power.

The three units previously generated power from coal, but two are being converted to combined-cycle gas turbines, which will add 512 additional MW of net capacity. (A third unit at Genesee was converted from coal to gas in 2023.)

While land can be a hurdle for some data centres, Comandante noted the Genesee site is located on 25,000 acres of property.

“We are in the exploration, investigation, development phase ... We’re having conversations with various data centres and hyperscalers,” he added.

“The key role that we’d be playing is selling power to it ... so the opportunity for us there is to sell power to the data centre that we could potentially look to have sited at Genesee through these (Demand Transmission Service) requests” to AESO’S connection queue.

The AESO points out that demand growth expected from new data centres is uncertain. Many requests are in the early stages.

“It does take some really detailed studies for us to ensure that we understand the impact on the transmission system,” Robert Davidson, AESO vice-president of grid reliability transmission, said Tuesday.

“These data centres can be the size of small towns to large cities, and so we do have to be very thoughtful in how we integrate them in.”

Comment by gilver on Nov 04, 2024 10:26am
Poet can certainly play a small part in this (like, its Interposer). I'd rather keep reaching for potential of how Poet can take part in data centers rather than engage in the boring "sigh"-cology that basher-traders try to do with their fear and doubt rhetoric and immature demeaning of others to shape the image of this bullboard around their trading. There narrative seems so fake ...more  
Comment by daytrader18939 on Nov 04, 2024 10:49am
Nothing fake about where the sp has been headed lately. That's reality. 
Comment by maestrodrumboe on Nov 04, 2024 11:07am
SP is getting hammered..where are those Dollar days?
Comment by wintersun10 on Nov 04, 2024 11:11am
You might get what you are asking for in Red. Fortunately not too many days as Poet is nearing rock bottom once again. What changed? Or better what never changes? Management.
Comment by wintersun10 on Nov 04, 2024 11:08am
The US Tier1 apparently non customer would break the ice for Poet. Nobody can do what Poet can do, is what "they" say. Poet would overtake all the data centers. Actually nobody at Poet is talking about data centers anymore. The focus somehow is on the shiny object of AI, which did not exist TWO YEARS ago. OK, only TWO YEARS of testing. And who knows the how world will be totally ...more  
Comment by gilver on Nov 04, 2024 12:13pm
wintersun10 rhetorizes that "FIRST PRIORITY for Poet would be to shorten testing. How, who knows? Here is an idea: AI. Who knew." What you don't seem to know is that Mitsubishi, Foxxconn, and Luxshare are in control of THEIR testing. You seem to paint a misleading comment that all things take two years to test when in fact it is an individual timetable for each customer. Poet knows ...more  
Comment by maestrodrumboe on Nov 04, 2024 2:37pm
What you don't seem  (or refuse) to reprehend, is that if the product works as you say,then it would not take 2 years of fixing,breaking it and trying it again,over and over.why do you think the NA partner walked away, after years of testing?..lmSSo
Comment by wintersun10 on Nov 04, 2024 4:01pm
Right, it has always been TWO YEARS of Testing. It is Poet's problem. Poet will have to solve it, for the customers but mostly for themselves and esp for the SHEARHOLDERS. Poet is responsible for selling the gadgets. That includes EVERY SINGLE THING. R&D, Marketing, Sales, Investor relations, production, accounts receivables, suppliers. Nobody but Poet is responsible. The buck stops ...more  
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