Puda Coal Inc PUDA

MZ trying to list something In China!

[homestus]

The question is not wether or not MZ will try to list some Assets in China! The Job Ad is pretty clear about it. 

The real questions are: 

1. Will MZ succed at listing the Assets on the Chinese Market? Not so obvious these days

2. What assets is MZ trying to List! 

 

Heer you can find a translation of the Document! It is pretty clear thatthe Company hiring the Secretary of the Board is in a "Pre-IPO" stage. What is not clear is which asstes MZ will list! ... Will it list the Entire Group (Puda Group) or will he list only a Division of the Group (Subsidiary ... as for example the Agricultural Division).

The job Ad says that the Employeer is a Large Shanxi Coal Group. and that the Industry is Engery-related. However this does not rule out the possibility that Puda Group Is hiring a Secretary of the Board for one Subsidiary it is going to list in the near future!

As I said ... For now ... we can not be sure about the assets MZ will try to list! ... Maybe Puda Coal Inc Mines (per 10k2010) are among them ... or ... maybe not! .. 

We will see ...

 The only sure thing is: MZ is trying to list a Company In China. 

 

 

Link to the Document

[homestus]

On the other hand we had a recent (4 months ago) attempt of Puda Group to retore Puda Coal Brand Name in China ... At the End of January many pieces came out ... ..   So .. .I guess ... Puda Coal  or Puda Group could be the to-be-listed Enterprise. For Example:  https://www.guigu.org/news/nengyuancailiao/2013012115307.html https://www.dahezaixian.com/fortune/2013/0121/102623.html

[coldheat]

In my opinion, based on the single bit of evidence and the knowledge that a Chinese listing has been in the cards since he spoke of it back in 2011,  it seems he is applying to list the Shanxi Puda Coal group which is comprised (at last check) of 12 subsidiary mining operations. (not sure exactly how many mines at any one point in time) This would be all his mining assets that are under that

[coldheat]

At the time of these postings and still to this day, I know for a fact that Zhao is looking for money, anywhere he can get it. If he can salt the mine, (so to speak) with a bunch of dreamy crud that gives potential investors the indirect impression that Shanxi Puda Coal is really about to launch into a successful growth phase and that a short window is open to get in on the ground floor of a big

[coldheat]

One more thought regarding the Puda Group/Puda coal group business.... I think the Agricultural business has already been split off for listing. I think that particular application was either yanked or is sitting somewhere....Perhaps it made it through and is already listed under some name I have never identified...I don't know, but the diversified conglomerate model failed back in the 80-90s

[homestus]

It difficult to list assets in CHINA these days ... but I am sure MZ wil find a Way .... without having to wait up to 5 years:     How 300,000 Yuan and Shark's Fin Soup Can Buy IPO Approval Members of a review committee and others at CSRC can make millions every year through shady deals made possible by an opaque system, people close to the process say   https://english.caixin

[homestus]

You cann add these Coal Operations to MZ Coal Empire:    ??????????     see:   https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:yRSW2HZbcb4J:hn.shihuahr.com/Company/JobsInfo/493AF3D3D578D2F4/071F5829E6CE5E2D.html+%22%E5%B1%B1%E8%A5%BF%E6%98%86%E6%B3%B0%E8%83%BD%E6%BA%90%E6%9C%89%E9%99%90%E5%85%AC%E5%8F%B8%22+426&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ch &

[coldheat]

Bing Translation......   Quintiles of Shanxi energy limited was founded in 1995, based in xuefu Street, Taiyuan City, Shanxi province 426 . Kuntai energy limited coal mining, processing, shipping and coal chemical industry product development-oriented, has formed real estate development, deep processing of agricultural products, and modern agriculture demonstration, high-end homes, fire

[coldheat]

Excellent article on the corruption issues in China. I am well aware that Zhao could do this, and I suspect that he is trying. After thinking a bit on that posted Corporate brochure that you found for his primary holding company I may have to take another look at the potential to list it, I know that Zhao would want to do this, but I still question the possibility that a underwriter would be

[homestus]

Correct. But then also ... among the Coal Business of Puda Group, We have different "Subsidiaries" Holding Companies.   For Example: In China Puda Coal Inc was (is?) considered a subsidiary of Puda Group. The same was true till 2011 for King Stone Energy. Till 2011 KSE was considered a subsidiary of Puda Group.   "Quintiles of Shanxi energy limited" i considered

[homestus]

Correct. But then also ... among the Coal Business of Puda Group, We have different "Subsidiaries" Holding Companies.   For Example: In China Puda Coal Inc was (is?) considered a subsidiary of Puda Group. The same was true till 2011 for King Stone Energy. Till 2011 KSE was considered a subsidiary of Puda Group.   "Quintiles of Shanxi energy limited" i considered

[homestus]

Which corporate Brochure? ... thanks

[coldheat]

Ummmmmmmm This one.......you posted it this mornig....   https://www.syhqgs.net/vi3/282.htm   This website apparently becongs to a corporate advertising agency that among other things, creates coporate brochures and websites....some of the artwork on their site was created for Zhaos holding company and you apparently picked it up on a search....   That's how I read it....anyway.

[homestus]

let me clarify. Shan Xi Kuntai Energy Co., Ltd ... is not MZ holding Company. That website created brochures of different MZ Subsidiaries¨(Companies).    See for example this one:  https://www.syhqgs.net/anli/328.htm It is for the Real Estate Company of Ming Zhao. Boya Group.       btw I am not even sure there is such a Thing as a Holding Company in MZ world

[homestus]

"Quintiles of Shanxi energy limited" is active in the SICHUAN Procince. Puda Coal Inc was active in the Shanxi Province, While KSE was active in the Inner Mongolia

[coldheat]

I have no idea what you are talking about....That corporate brochure was referencing his entire holdings which include the Ag stuff...his construction real estate empire as well as the coal mines.... It has nothing to do with Puda, or KSE. It was a brochure for some kind of a conference or meeting.....Not sure why they used it as a example of their work....but the use of it was simply self

[coldheat]

"Puda Group is the "holding Company". But it is not a legal Entity. The owner of the Companies belonging to Puda Group (at least till 2012) is not an entity (legal) named Puda Group, it is MZ (IMO)."   I agree with that, until now the references to his overall holding has been referred to as the "Large Group" or sometimes Shanxi Puda Group and even Princeton. I

[coldheat]

"let me clarify. Shan Xi Kuntai Energy Co., Ltd ... is not MZ holding Company." Yes......I understand that, and there are actually several companies mentioned. As I said, the website is just self promotion from the advertising firm that produced them for their clients, Ming Zhao being on of them.  

[homestus]

None of the brochures I posted was about a solar project! ... "Clena Group" ... is not related!      One was the brochure for the Schiuan Mining Operations (the company we discussed before) https://www.syhqgs.net/up_files/sanxi%20(1)(1).jpg   the second was for Boya Real Estate. Boya Real Estate is the MZ company that's developing many Project in Shanxi. (The

[homestus]

"advertising firm that produced them for their clients, Ming Zhao being on of them." Exaclty!    And MZ gave them 2 job   1 Broschure for the Real Estate Seecgment of Puda Group 1 bruchure for the Mining in Schiuan

[coldheat]

Yeah......and I would extend that a bit to say that many more brochures might have been created and they only mentioned the two most recent that they did.... It only seems to confirm that Zhao is shopping his companies to investors, in any way he can, in any configuration, group, or way that he can sell it to them. I think that he's covering all the bases and trying to find a way to fund his