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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Sensio Technologies Inc SNIOF

Sensio Technologies Inc develops and markets stereoscopic technologies for consumer electronics, digital broadcasting and digital cinema markets.

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Sensio Technologies Inc > Registered users misses my estimate, but...
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Post by hedge8 on Oct 28, 2015 6:16pm

Registered users misses my estimate, but...

I had estimated 33,000-38,000 registed users by the end of Q1. Actual users came in at 31,414. I am not too impressed by that number. It is surprising that with the number of LG 3DTVs out there Sensio hasn't been able to penetrate further.

The "but" is that Q1 is seasonally the slowest quarter of the entire year, both for rentals and for TV sales. This is important to remember, as we know that the vast majority of new 3DGO users are driven by new 3DTV sales, and the vast majority of rentals revenues are driven by quality new 3D releases. To give you some perspective, here's a list of new releases during the last quarter vs. the current quarter:

Q1: (Jun15-Aug15)
 
Spongebob Movie (Jun 2)
Home (Jul 28)
 
 
Q2: (Sep15-Nov15)
 
Poltergeist (Sep 29)
Avengers Age of Ultron (Oct 2)
Jurassic World (Oct 20)
Inside Out (Nov 3)
Terminator Genisys (Nov 10)

In previous posts I said I was cautiously optimistic about Q1, as it should provide a hint of the LG impact, but that the real growth will not be seen until Q2 and Q3. I am disappointed with the impact of LG so far, but given that the current quarter has more than 2x the number of new relases vs. Q1 I remain confident that that alone should result in twice the number of rentals. Factor in Samsung and Black Friday and 3DGO revenues in Q2 are likely 3x what they were in Q1.

Sensio already said in today's PR that with more than a full month still to go in Q2 revenues are already more than Q4 2014 and 2015. That means revenues are already greater than $30,000 so far. I'll assume they are $35,000 so far (vs. $31,814 in all of Q1). That likely came mostly in October and mostly from Avengers alone. With Jurassic World, Inside Out and Terminator being released over the next 2 weeks you can likely double that to $70,000 even without the Black Friday effect. With a spike in Black Friday sales, and LG and Samsung both fully launched, that probably means $80,000-90,000 3DGO revenues in Q2. With Christmas and more big releases in Q3 3DGO revenues should be in the $125,000-175,000 area in Q3.

Not Netflix numbers by any means. And still a long way to go (international expansion will definitely help). But the posters bashing Q2 earnings are the same ones that were bashing Q1 for similar reasons at .10 and watched the stock jump almost 100% this month. These posters continue to focus on the past and not on what is now the present in Q2 and the very near future in Q3. The share price may sell off a bit tomorrow for similar reasons as it did in Q1, by investors focusing on the past and a seasonally weak quarter, but Sensio is building a critical mass and results will be seen in Q2 and Q3.

The negatives? As I've already posted on numerous occasions, SIO will need one more infusion of cash. That will likely result in 10-15% dilution in shares. If they can find a way to execute this efficiently I can live with it. And, as I mentioned above, I am disappointed with SIO's ability to penetrate existing LG 3DTV owners. I am confident with their ability to grow users from new 3DTV buyers, but they really need to find a way to market the product better to existing TV owners.

I 100% disagree with the resident basher (and most of us know who he is and why he is bashing) that there is no market for 3D at home. Almost all of the negatives that hurt 3D at home during its launch several years ago are addressed with things like passive 3DTV, UHD TVS and 3DGO. It takes time to reverse negative perceptions, but as more and more users use 3DGO we'll continue to see that market grow.
Comment by 3D_Guy on Oct 28, 2015 6:33pm
I have no qualms in accepting you calling me a basher, hedge, as I am sure you have none that most of us see you as an over-optimistic cheerleader. Let's go beyond your wildest dreams.  150 000$ in Q2, and 200 000$ in Q3. Looking at what Polebrook posted, with gross at less than 30%, you're looking at less than 50k and less than 60k, so a total of 110k in 2 quarters, with at least ...more  
Comment by hedge8 on Oct 28, 2015 6:42pm
If SIO can continue to grow from those numbers, and expand internationally, which is where the bigger opportunity is, then getting to cash flow positive will not be that difficult given their modent cash burn. And everyone is forgetting about the WiLAN deal which by mid-2016 should start to inject further cash into the company. Again, I'm not saying these are Netflix numbers, but at the ...more  
Comment by Polebrook on Oct 28, 2015 6:59pm
Hedge, let's say the business needs another $1-$2m cash injection to realize the next set of objectives. The investors with that type of cash are likely to run the same numbers as I and others have and will look at the immediate past as some pointer for what to expect in the immediate future (in particular the period for which the cash is likely to last if 3DGo continues to perform as it has). ...more  
Comment by Rabiddoberman on Oct 28, 2015 8:27pm
Hedge, you compare quarters from one to the next. Of course revenue is going to be higher in Q2, which includes Black Friday, and even more so in Q3, with the holiday season and a good chunk of winter. But that's comparing apples to oranges. You need to compare Q1 2015 with other Q1s. I made that analysis for you in my post. Q1 2015 with LG fully deployed (+ legacy Vizio and Panasonic users ...more  
Comment by hedge8 on Oct 28, 2015 10:28pm
Rabid - You make a number of erroneous assumptions. One of them is your statement that LG is 10x the size of Vizio and therefore sales should have been much larger. Looking at data I can find from 2014, smart TV market share in the USA at that time was: Samsumg 29.6% Vizio 24.4% LG 13% Panasonic 6.9% That totals 74%, or close to the 80% of the addresssable market Sensio quoted after signing ...more  
Comment by Rabiddoberman on Oct 28, 2015 11:36pm
Hedge, first off, I'll admit I was wrong - I've been looking at global 3D TV market shares rather than US. That being said, the data you're quoting is about smart TVs (i.e. connected) - NOT about 3D TVs (seeing as it's from 2014, Vizio's market share should have been much less than 24%, considering it pulled out of the 3D TV market that year). It's a known fact ...more  
Comment by Rabiddoberman on Oct 29, 2015 9:59am
I have reviewed my guesstimates to use SIO's own data on sold 3D TVs. I'll add that these are guesstimates - and thus a very general idea of where revenue should be headed considering the current track record.  Here's how I calculated: Q1 2015 numbers are for 4,76 million sold 3D TVs (Vizio + Panasonic + LG) Q2 2015 should be for 10,65 million sold 3D TVs (4,76 V+P+LG, + ...more  
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