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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Southern Pacific Resource Corp STPJF

Southern Pacific Resource Corp. is a Canada-based company, which is engaged in the thermal production of heavy oil in Senlac, Saskatchewan on a property known as STP-Senlac, and thermal production of bitumen on a property located in the Athabasca region of Alberta known as STP-McKay, as well as exploration for and development of in-situ oil sands in the Athabasca region of Alberta. Its STP... see more

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Post by zanadu123 on Mar 25, 2014 12:54pm

What if??

What if McKay is put on sale and Senlac is held back?? 
Suncor, Grizzly, or any adjoining land buys out McKay...
Comment by tp0052 on Mar 25, 2014 1:23pm
If they do that, they might as well jump on the mining company bandwagon and elect to raise some $$$$ by going in to marijuana??? LOL...It's nice to laugh again :) Future looks great and I'm with Shat. Holding long ... Cheers and GLTA!
Comment by zanadu123 on Mar 25, 2014 3:35pm
TP: That is exactly what my dog says...McKay will yield more valuation...because of mineral rights....STP will get good cash due to improving flow rate of IUD / ICD....  and stock price goes up immediately. Management bails out...mission accomplished...
Comment by nikehercules on Mar 25, 2014 4:01pm
STP management is not the pump and dump type. Besides, selling McKay would be equivalent to a complete sale of the company. The second lien junk bonds have conditions against selling off a substantial bulk of STP's assets - they are tied to McKay like the bank line is tied to Senlac. The future value of McKay is far greater than the present value, that's why I don't think a ...more  
Comment by zanadu123 on Mar 25, 2014 4:04pm
But, my dog just saw this in the crystal ball.... Time will tell.... Have seen lots of greedy management...tons out there...
Comment by alfino on Mar 25, 2014 4:08pm
I want this F#$#er to go to 12000 bopd as promissed and back to 1.70$ times..and I believe this managment can deliver that and then we will have a company with steel balls to sell for a great deal.
Comment by zanadu123 on Mar 25, 2014 4:10pm
I like that....i am with you...but sometimes i get tempted to listen to my bad dog...
Comment by nikehercules on Mar 25, 2014 4:11pm
Management is greedy. Lutes has 467,205 shares and 2,845,000 options, most of which are over $1.00 according to the "Notice of Meeting and Management Proxy & Information Circular". 850,000 are at 0.56 and expire November 3, 2014. If he sells the company at a buck, he only gets his 2x salary, which is chump change compared to the potential  rewards. Plus he take a 40% hit on ...more  
Comment by zanadu123 on Mar 25, 2014 4:27pm
Options are granted by companies to management to perform. Lutes paid 0 cents for them. Shares - dont know what price he paid...or was part of his term...or if he even paid. You and me (for certain) bought STP shares with hard earned tax paid $$$ There is a difference.... We see all the time....options expiring worthless.... McKay sale can take this above $1 immediately, and al these 2.8 ...more  
Comment by freedom45 on Mar 25, 2014 4:48pm
Net Asset Value Estimate NPV @ 10% NPV @ 8% NPV of Proved Plus Probable Reserves, Net Asset Value per Share $4.89 $7.74
Comment by poorgrammar on Mar 25, 2014 5:34pm
@freedom45, if your assessment materialize lot of people will seeking freedom at 35
Comment by Eyeinvestor on Mar 25, 2014 7:04pm
Nike.....finding a strategic partner to buy a working interest in STP McKay would be by far and away the best outcome for the stock. Eye described 3 possible ways of re-capitalizing STP for future growth. A combination of increased debt (but Im worried how expensive that could be) and a sale of a 20-30% working interest in McKay would be the best. Eye will run y'all thru the numbers in another ...more  
Comment by nikehercules on Mar 26, 2014 12:52am
Debs are great, i get the upside without the volitility and a big coupon while i wait. Shat worked out an amazing almost too good to be true annual rate of return of 48%. I haven't worked out the exact number myself. I am new to directly purchasing junk bonds. Previously i got exposure through JNK, but that got a little overpriced so i sold. Deb payments are taxed as regular income, so they ...more  
Comment by Eyeinvestor on Mar 26, 2014 9:50am
From a tax perspective STP DB is attractive if it works. The appreciation of bonds from a discount are treated more favorably in Canada than US Bonds. Check with yr accountant. My understanding is that appreciation from a discount of canadian bond is Cap gain and appreciation from a discount in the US is treated as regular income. So most of the return from STP DB is going to be taxed at cap gain. ...more