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Sandstorm Metals & Energy Ltd > National bank target $0.35
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Post by elmothefearless on Sep 20, 2012 3:16am

National bank target $0.35

National Bank's target is $0.35 (downgraded from $0.40). Link: https://www.jagsreport.com/2012/09/research-analysts-price-target-changes-for-september-18th-cdi-cs-cum-erf-far-fdx-fm-gei-gga-hbm/

Here is my target, with the following assumptions: discount rate of 12% and pre-tax (b/c we have in excess of $100 mm of tax pools at this point).

1. Questionable whether Donner will have sufficient cash to repurchase the stream. Assume they do not. PV of ~9 year mine life of ~$12 mm cash flow / annum (copper ~$3.50) is ~$65 mm. Production starts within a few months so no further discounting necessary.

2. PV of CSI stream, assuming 50% repurchase, is ~$25 mm. I'm assuming a grade of ~4.5 g/t, which is a little bit above the previous NI 43-101, but below a lot of the intercepts listed on the CSI website. If we do not assume the repurchase takes place, the PV is ~$40 mm (at time of production). We are about a year out from palladium production, if I understand correctly, so discount the $25 mm to $20 mm.

3. Total investment in NDX, TER and RDA is ~$51 mm. Assume recovery of 50% of investment by divesting assets, or $25 mm. Although these dispositions would take place in the future, I think there is a good chance they dispose of these assets in excess of 50% of what they paid the streams for, so I'm not going to discount these amounts any further.

4. Tough to value TBD. At $5.00 gas we are talking about an investment that has a PV of over $100 mm. At $2.50 gas we are talking about something worth about $25 - $30 mm. Call it $30 mm for the optionality upside... at $6.00 gas this thing earns us over $30 mm for > 15 years.

5. Current cash on hand of $40 mm plus $2 mm fair value of Donner shares less $10 mm payment due to TBD ($3 mm paid after most recent quarter) less $5 mm due to CSI for stream for total cash of ~$27 mm.

$65 mm (Donner) + $20 mm (CSI) + $25 mm (investment recovery) + $27 mm (cash on hand) + $30 mm (TBD) = $167 mm = ~$0.52 / share is what I would say this stock is worth today

It's sad what happened to RDA, NDX and TER. For a $22 mm investment in NDX that stream was set to earn us $8 - $12 mm for > 20 years. For $15 mm in TER that stream would have earned us $6 - $7 mm for >12 years, assuming modest declines. Present value these things, the NDX stream was worth $80 mm, TER about $30 - $35 mm.

Comment by Kewl2 on Sep 20, 2012 6:36am
elmo - great analysis - thanks.   Question -- did you take into account the repayment from SND to SSL for the CSI stream?? Maybe I missed it but couldn't find in the analysis.   Also -- don't forget the comment that Nolan made after last years YE results -- which went something along the lines of  " due to the way the RC deal was structured we will likely make more off ...more  
Comment by aagold on Sep 20, 2012 9:22pm
Elmo, Interesting analysis.  I'm curious about #3, where you seem to be putting NDX and TER in the same "fail" bucket as RDA.  Are you sure that's really accurate?  The company wrote off RDA to $0 on the balance sheet but didn't do so for NDX and TER.  Isn't there still a decent shot at NDX getting new equity financing, or at least being able to sell ...more  
Comment by elmothefearless on Sep 21, 2012 3:57am
The most recent National Bank writeup (target for SND increased to $0.45) is excellent.  Actually, now that I pay closer attention to NB's analysis, I see that their NAV is ~$140 mm whereas mine was ~$165 mm, and it's almost exactly the $25 mm I guesstimate we recover from the 3 bad investments we made.  I guess I am on the same page as them, although I haven't seen the ...more  
Comment by elmothefearless on Sep 21, 2012 4:03am
Disclosure: SND is my biggest investment and it will likely remain that way for quite a while.  I am very biased. I believe that this streaming model will be more lucrative than any mining company will ever be.  I think we are forging a new path for non-precious metals streamers and, as of today, we have next to no competition.  I legitimately believe Nolan can turn this thing into ...more  
Comment by Baysarj on Sep 21, 2012 7:24am
NDX restructured and renamed!  This is great news! Elmo, very nice detailed write-ups.   I think there is nowhere to go but up from here.
Comment by Kewl2 on Sep 21, 2012 7:36am
Elmo -- excellent overview!   Did you check the math on your previous analysis (as per my earlier note)??  Would like to find out if you included repayment to SSL for the ICL Palladium stream in the calcs?? Thanks
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