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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Suncor Energy Inc SU


Primary Symbol: T.SU

Suncor Energy Inc. is a Canada-based integrated energy company. The Company's segments include Oil Sands, Exploration and Production (E&P), and Refining and Marketing. Its operations include oil sands development, production and upgrading; offshore oil production; petroleum refining in Canada and the United States; and the Company’s Petro-Canada retail and wholesale distribution networks... see more

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Suncor Energy Inc > Canada's first EV only service station
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Post by Obscure1 on Sep 13, 2024 11:11pm

Canada's first EV only service station

https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/chargestop-opens-canadas-first-ev-only-service-station-in-edmonton/

EV sales in 2023 made up 24% of all auto sales in Europe (the #3 auto market in the world) - 25% in Californian (#5 market in the world) - 25% in Germany.  In China (which makes up over 1/3 of the current world auto market, EV's made up 56% of all new auto sales in the most recent month.  

Who cares.  Nothing to worry about.  It is not like Volkswagon is shuttering auto plants in Germany for the first time in its 87 year history citing their inability to compete. 

Nothing to worry about for the legacy auto makers who are all shutting down operations in China.  After all, China has only generated 50% or more of the corporate profits for most of the legacy auto makers for the past 10 years, so that is not a big deal at all.     

The  USA and Canada have slapped 100% duties on Chinese auto makers to protect domestic jobs which basically forces us to buy overpriced and inefficient ICE cars.  Canada bailed out GM in 2008 to the tune of $10 billion to protect jobs only to see GM give Canada the finger.  At least we can count on the politicos to do the wrong thing again and again.   

Nobody will even notice when Tesla introduces its next generation sub US$25.000 car in LA next month.  That new model will likely sell for about Cdn$27,500 after the Cdn Fed $5000 EV credit in Canada (or less in some provinces). 

Why would anybody buy a brand new Tesla for $27,500 with an 8 year warranty that runs for pennies on the dollar vs ICE cars when my local Kia dealer is offering a 5 year old Kia Sportage with 96,000 km for $22,500.  

But those damn batteries are so expensive and they don't last very long.  Well, not really.  They  they can now be replaced for around $5k and last up to 1 million miles.  The 8 year warranty makes battery replacement irrelevent for most car buyers.   

Let's not forget that 96% of EV owners charge at home (almost for free) and never have to go to a gas station, or do oil changes or brake jobs.  The other 4% have to find one of the 27,000 public chargers now available in Canada.  That number is growing by about 10,000 new public chargers per year. 

Kamala embarassed Trump in the debate this week which likely means we have 4 to 8 years of Harris ahead of us.  She is going to be  wayyyy more green than Biden but that will soon be irrelevent as the math is already so lopsided in favour of EV's that it is difficult to see the politicos messing it up. 

The future's so bright for Suncor with it 100% commitment to oil sands and its 4 oil refineries and 1,500 gas stations that SU shareholders gotta wear shades. 

Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger.  Have a good weekend everybody.

Comment by mrbb on Sep 14, 2024 1:58am
Canada bailed out GM in 2008 to the tune of $10 billion to protect jobs only to see GM give Canada the finger.  At least we can count on the politicos to do the wrong thing again and again. ( So bailout for ICE (GM) was bad but $30 billions for EV stellantis, VW) is a charm Canada mimics US by offering $30 billion for Stellantis, Volkswagen | Financial Post BYD, Nio, Geely, tesla ...more  
Comment by Marty47 on Sep 14, 2024 12:54pm
Ev pomper lol my neighbour has a Mazda x3 and wanted a Tesla , so the other day I saw a new Mazda c30 but used one , I ask him what happen with the Tesla , he told me he would need an lectricien to get a charger , insurance would be 1500$ more per year and he said who will buy a used Tesla  at 100000km and if it break it will cost a fortune , so he got a cheap used Mazda c30 for 22k doing 7l ...more  
Comment by mrbb on Sep 14, 2024 2:31pm
2 weeks ago, my next door neighbor just bought a 2024 CX30 mazda
Comment by Marty47 on Sep 14, 2024 11:41pm
Hey bro go pump your ev on Tesla boards with the kook-aid drinker , just for your info  a Tesla model 2 with 132000k 2015 sell for 22k a camery xse 2015 with 150km sell for 15k now a Tesla model 3 2020with 103000km sell for 22k , now how much cost a model s new or a Tesla model 3 new , these ev depreciate like hell never mind a camery hybrid 2015 or a Tacoma 2015 with 170000km sell for 30k a ...more  
Comment by mrbb on Sep 15, 2024 3:26pm
a generalization but my observation from the forum and driving environment, is majority of EV owners have low understanding of basic automotive mechanics and electronics, they're attracted to ev mainly on superficial short term cost saving and convenient, and flashy media/marketing.  Like, they don't know about cold weather, didn't know about the charging time, net distance on a ...more  
Comment by mrbb on Sep 15, 2024 3:32pm
i have said before, i use to own TSLA shares (both tsla and cdr) and participated on stockhouse TSLA board for rmany years.  So i'm not inept on EV or TSLA progress. Never once i see battery boys posted anything there.  
Comment by Marty47 on Sep 15, 2024 4:08pm
Y'a i guess I fix my spa , water heater sump pump , do some plumbing and fix my cars myself , oil change brakes etc so I may not be the best ev candidate , I don't like to be brainwashed lol 
Comment by mrbb on Sep 15, 2024 5:29pm
i just updated my phone from iphone 6S (short battery life) to an iphone 8.  (i have an iphone 11 on deck but i prefer the lighter iphone 6-8 series). All for free of course.  Gave an extra iphone 11 to my brother too. EV will be like this soon. Used EV could be had for next to nothing.  
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