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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Air Canada T.AC

Alternate Symbol(s):  ACDVF

Air Canada is an airline company. The Company is a provider of scheduled passenger services in the Canadian market, the Canada-United States (U.S.) transborder market and the international market to and from Canada. It provides scheduled service directly to more than 180 airports in Canada, the United States and internationally on six continents. The Company’s Aeroplan program is Canada's... see more

TSX:AC - Post Discussion

Air Canada > Q1, Q2 and beyond
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Post by Rouge10 on Jun 03, 2023 1:30am

Q1, Q2 and beyond

Air Canada had stellar Q1 and Q2 is shaping out to be a record EBITDA. If fuel trend persists, Q3 will produce a record EBITDA too. How!

Demand/Revenue: It’s no secret by now, that demand for Air Canada product is very strong. Few pointers:
  1. Canada air passenger data shows last week as 103% of similar week in 2019. Doesn't mean all weeks will be same.
             https://www.catsa-acsta.gc.ca/en/screened-passenger-data
  1. Canada – China market is opening up. There is huge pent up demand in China for international travel as people haven’t travelled for last 3 years. Pre covid, there were 9-10 daily AC flights between Canada-China. Today, AC doesn’t have that much spare capacity, right away. It means higher fares as flights come back. Yes, Chinese carriers benefit with shorter flights (Russian air space) but AC will capture Canada origin demand due to Aeroplan.
  2. Any weakness (if there would be any) due to potential recession will allow AC to redeploy capacity to China market.
  3. AC is not going after All demand (AC Q2 capacity of ~91% Vs total canadian travel/demand close to 95%+ of 2019). AC is leaving low yield/fare demand for LCC and is focused on premium demand.
        2.Advance ticket sales (esp international) is much higher than any of the previous years.
  1. Most of the international fares are much higher than 2019 numbers. Base economy fares 6-10 weeks outs
    1. Canada – India: > $3,000 (2019 was close to $1600)
    2. Canada – China: > $6,000. This is crazy. There are very few direct flights recently introduced. Indirect flights are as expensive too. (2019 was close to $1,500)
    3. Canada – Aus: > $2,200 (2019 was $1,500).
    4. Canada – Europe: varies but it’s more than $1,200 for most part. Lot of fares are in $1,800 range. This use to be $800-$1,200.
  2. Strong preference for premium economy product: Not only economy fares are super high, premium economy product growth is surpassing previous levels.
  3. Aeroplan: 2024 membership (7 million) target is already achieved. As per CEO, ‘other’ category revenue is going to be consistently higher (as in Q1) because of improved aeroplan revenue. Example: TD Visa Aeroplan premium card charges $600 annual fee. For let’s say 1 million such members, the fees is $600M per annum which is distributed between bank, visa and AC, AC being major shareholder.
  4. Cargo: As more freighters join the fleet, expect cargo revenue to improve consistently.
  5. Total Revenue: 2023 will be a record revenue year. My estimates are close to $22.0B. Fuel surcharges are not going away. Fares are now pure demand supply play. With demand surpassing supply, prices will stay elevated. Aeroplan/Credit card programs are generating sustainable cash flow.
 
Capacity: AC’s capacity in Q2 is around to be @90-91%. (annual capacity @90%, Q1 @84% will translate into Q2-Q4 capacity of 90-95%). This means
  1. AC will run with higher capacity utilization (load factor) as demand is higher than capacity.
  2. There is not much spare capacity left. AC reduced number of aircraft capacity when COVID hit.
  3. Any additional capacity (few new planes in coming months and years) will be carefully planned.
 
Cost:

Fuel: Jet fuel price for Q2 is 21% lower than Q1 average. Most of the fuel for Q2 is already purchased (average 6 weeks in advance) and probably 20%-25% of Q3 is purchased too. OPEC is thinking of capacity cut on next meeting on Jun 4th. By then, expect 25-30% of Q3 fuel already purchased. As per Amos , on 11th May, average jet fuel price was CND1.01 per litre, where as the budget for Q2-Q4 is at $1.09.  Since then jet fuel price is hovering around $1 per litre. If fuel price stays the same (or lower….let’s say due to some sort of mild recession), AC will perform better than their EBITDA and Cash flow guidance for 2023.
Labor: The 2nd biggest cost will go up but prorated to higher capacity in Q2 and then Q3. Q4 cost could be bit more higher due to pilots contracts. But not overly concerned about pilots. Pilots labor cost even will be manageable even if use WestJet’s salary increase as a benchmark.
 
Conclusion
Air Canada is back. 2023 will be a record revenue and EBITDA year, even with some sort of recession in Q4. By data, we are already in freight/product recession with transportation industry reeling in low volume and consumer product companies facing lower demand. Travel industry is attracting all that spending. 2024 could be normalization year but by then AC will be back to 100% (of 2019) with better business model, allowing it for better results.

As long as fuel price stays stable, expect $4B EBITDA this year. Leverage ratio of <1.25 and net debt of <$5.0B. This will be best leverage ratio in industry, definitely in North America and possible amongst the top globally. No share buy backs (confirmed by management) this year and all the cash be used for deleveraging and buying new planes with cash.

Only few weeks left for Q2 to finish. Q2 results will set the tone for Air Canada. It will be best Q2 on record with only ~90% capacity of 2019. And Q3 will follow the same course .
Comment by Returns2021 on Jun 03, 2023 10:27am
All of this is ALREADY baked into the share price.  The upside is ZERO with a ton of DOWNSIDE.  Shareholders care about stock price appreciation and not your fantasies.  The outlook post Q3 is going to be DISASTROUS.    
Comment by TradeForex on Jun 03, 2023 10:06pm
Out of one side of it's mouth, the anal-yst says this information is already "baked in" the share price, and then out of the other side of it's mouth the anal-yst says it's Rouge10's "fantasies". Hmmmm,  the resident anal-yst is an enigma. 
Comment by JuIieRichards on Jun 04, 2023 1:53am
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Comment by JuIieRichards on Jun 03, 2023 11:44am
Read the original post below from ROUGE10, not the pollution from the fully baked and mental troll. Conclusion: Air Canada is back. 2023 will be a record revenue and EBITDA year, even with some sort of recession in Q4. By data, we are already in freight/product recession with transportation industry reeling in low volume and consumer product companies facing lower demand. Travel industry is ...more  
Comment by JuIieRichards on Jun 03, 2023 6:37pm
Read the original information: https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard/t.ac/air-canada-inc?postid=35478190
Comment by JuIieRichards on Jun 04, 2023 3:51pm
This post has been removed in accordance with Community Policy
Comment by JuIieRichards on Jun 04, 2023 5:20pm
Facts first  https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard/t.ac/air-canada-inc?postid=35478190
Comment by JuIieRichards on Jun 05, 2023 10:05am
This was the article published this past weekend by ROUGE10 that is valuable for investors. Here is the link. The troll was worried that people will see it, so he dribbled a lot this weekend to push it into page 2 https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard/t.ac/air-canada-inc?postid=35478190
Comment by TradeForex on Jun 28, 2023 12:10pm
Q1, Q2 and beyond repost https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard/t.ac/air-canada?postid=35478190
Comment by TradeForex on Jun 29, 2023 7:38am
TROLLS do not like facts Q1, Q2 and beyond repost https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard/t.ac/air-canada?postid=35478190
Comment by TradeForex on Jun 29, 2023 1:25pm
Just a reminder that TROLLS do not like facts. https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard/t.ac/air-canada?postid=35478190
Comment by TradeForex on Jun 30, 2023 10:17am
Just another reminder that TROLLS do not like facts. https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard/t.ac/air-canada?postid=35478190
Comment by TradeForex on Jun 30, 2023 11:25am
bump https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard/t.ac/air-canada?postid=35478190
Comment by TradeForex on Jun 30, 2023 2:13pm
The TROLLS don't like this post https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard/t.ac/air-canada?postid=35478190
Comment by TradeForex on Jul 03, 2023 7:15am
The TROLLS really don't like facts
Comment by TradeForex on Jul 04, 2023 10:05am
TROLLS can't handle the truth
Comment by TradeForex on Jul 04, 2023 8:17pm
Board TROLLS don't like facts https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard/t.ac/air-canada?threadid=35478190
Comment by TradeForex on Jul 05, 2023 10:43am
TROLLS don't like these facts https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard/t.ac/air-canada?threadid=35478190
Comment by TradeForex on Jul 05, 2023 6:21pm
How quickly will the TROLLS try to bury this thread? https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard/t.ac/air-canada?threadid=35478190
Comment by TradeForex on Jul 06, 2023 9:43pm
TROLLS don't like this post https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard/t.ac/air-canada?postid=35478190
Comment by TradeForex on Jul 11, 2023 9:03am
Just going to throw this line out and go trolling for trolls https://stockhouse.com/companies/bullboard/t.ac/air-canada?postid=35478190
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