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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum AltaGas Ltd T.ALA

Alternate Symbol(s):  ATGFF | T.ALA.PR.A | ATGPF | T.ALA.PR.B | T.ALA.PR.G | ATGAF

AltaGas Ltd. is a Canada-based energy infrastructure company that connects natural gas and natural gas liquids (NGLs) to domestic and global markets. The Company’s segments include Utilities and Midstream. Its Utilities segment owns and operates franchised, rate-regulated natural gas distribution and storage utilities, which includes four utilities that operate across five United States... see more

TSX:ALA - Post Discussion

AltaGas Ltd > ALA vs. CPX
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Post by BSdetector2016 on Feb 28, 2021 8:24am

ALA vs. CPX

1 year:     ALA -7.2%    CPX -4.3%
2 years:   ALA +9.0%   CPX +11.3%
3 years:   ALA -17.5%   CPX +38.5%
5 years:   ALA -42.0%   CPX +100.0%
10 years: ALA -24.8%   CPX +32.4% 

And the Pumpers here would like you to believe that ALA is a great investment...
Comment by Scotchlight1001 on Feb 28, 2021 10:15am
Does this include dividends?
Comment by BSdetector2016 on Feb 28, 2021 10:32am
No it doesn't. CPX has always had a good, consistent dividend. AltaGas' used to be high but they chopped it by something like 56% after the Cornhill implosion. The other problem with ALA was their DRIP program that ballooned share count until it was cancelled, again after the implosion.
Comment by Johnwith30years on Feb 28, 2021 11:08am
You do realize that ALA is a very different company than five years ago yes?   Please fill in the chart of comparisons for 2021, 2022. 2023 2024, 2025.   Or should we do our analysis based on the past?   When he was two three and four my brother was really short.   I think he will always be short.  Oh except last year he played for the NBA???
Comment by Capharnaum on Feb 28, 2021 12:11pm
Without taking into account that one is a utility and the other is an infrastructure power producer, let's try and see which one represents better value... PE ratio based on normalized earnings: ALA = 13.5 vs CPX = 28.1 Cashflows multiple per share: ALA = 5.37 vs CPX = 6.92 Portion of cashflows used to pay dividends: ALA = 32% vs CPX = 41% These are the ratios right now, Altagas ratios ...more  
Comment by Johnwith30years on Feb 28, 2021 2:20pm
A much kinder and gentler and more informative post than mine... I have done the detailed analysis for ALA but thanks for checking on CPX.   I just get a bit annoyed when others look through the rear view mirror. I think a more interesting question is to try to find direct comparisons with ALA but because of its hybrid mix I find it difficult.  For example TD calls FTS their ...more  
Comment by Capharnaum on Feb 28, 2021 2:56pm
Just going by numbers: FTS has a rate base increase planned of 6.5% in the next three year (below Altagas), a P/E ratio of 19 and an approx 8.44x cashflow ratio (they don't provide adj cash flow). They pay about 33% of their cash flow in dividends. ENB doesn't provide adj figures either, so I have adjusted them by taking out one time items... P/E of 17.7, approx 8.8x cashflow ratio. They ...more