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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Amerigo Resources Ltd T.ARG

Alternate Symbol(s):  ARREF

Amerigo Resources Ltd. is a Canada-based copper producer. The Company owns a 100% interest in Minera Valle Central S.A. (MVC), a producer of copper concentrates. MVC, located in Chile, has a long-term contract with the El Teniente Division (DET) of Corporacion Nacional del Cobre de Chile (Codelco) to process fresh and historic tailings from El Teniente. The Company operates in one segment, the... see more

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Post by goldens on Aug 31, 2021 1:28pm

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I am not sure how free cashflow compares to net income but lets say they base the dividend on net income. Last quarter their net was just over $11 million so 46 million annually. If you take 60% of that and pay it out as a dividend based on 154 million shares you get about $0.27/share which translates to a 14% yield. That makes no sense so the share price would need to rise or the dividend needs to drop. To bring the yield back to the 7% range (still high) the share price would need to rise to just over $2.50/shr. A yield of 4% bring the sp to $4.50.

Their previous largest dividend (from website) was $0.13 annually in 07and 08 which represented 28% and 49% of net income respectively. During those 2 years their stock traded at a high of $3.43 and a low of $1.30 toward the end of 08.

Be interested for someone else to run a calculation based on what was said during the conference call with respect to a dividend. Personally I doubt we will see a share buyback as the float is small. Just my opinion.
Comment by goldens on Aug 31, 2021 1:51pm
Hate replying to my own message but I googled the FCF calculation and I forgot to subtract capital expenditures which I beleive are about $6 Million a year. Also the outstanding shares are 181 million. So the sp numbers are reduce in the calcuation to $1.90 for 7% yield and $3.33 for 4%.
Comment by sclarda on Aug 31, 2021 3:35pm
goldens wrote I am not sure how free cashflow compares to net income but lets say they base the dividend on net income. Last quarter their net was just over $11 million so 46 million annually. If you take 60% of that and pay it out as a dividend based on 154 million shares you get about $0.27/share which translates to a 14% yield. That makes no sense so the share price would need to rise or the ...more  
Comment by goldens on Aug 31, 2021 3:47pm
So basically once they announce the dividend in the next 30 days then something has to give. Either we are heading north of the existing share price or they are going to be extremely cautious with the dividend and hold of on returning the 60% mentioned in the conference call until after they pay off the loan. Either way I don't see much downside here.
Comment by savyinvestor333 on Aug 31, 2021 5:13pm
I think you are correct on that. My guess is that we are trading above $1.50 the day the dividend is announced or the next morning if announced after close of trading.
Comment by goldens on Aug 31, 2021 7:55pm
And don't forget about Moly prices which are also on a tear. https://ycharts.com/indicators/molybdenum_spot_price
Comment by sclarda on Aug 31, 2021 9:29pm
goldens wrote So basically once they announce the dividend in the next 30 days then something has to give. Either we are heading north of the existing share price or they are going to be extremely cautious with the dividend and hold of on returning the 60% mentioned in the conference call until after they pay off the loan. Either way I don't see much downside here. -------------------------- ...more  
Comment by goldens on Aug 31, 2021 9:45pm
Well put and I think you 9 million is conservative. One thing for sure is that they cannot sit on the cash or someone will come in and take it so I fully expect that they will announce a quarterly or semi-annual dividend to shed the cash. Once they announce the dividend you can be sure there will be some funds that will start looking at the yield. Nothing is guaranteed in the market like you said ...more  
Comment by savyinvestor333 on Sep 01, 2021 8:43am
I'm starting to think they also announce a share buyback at the same time as the dividend. I think it will help control the wild price swings we seem to have and will be a good home for all this extra cash that i think they are still reluctant to disperse completely by giving us a large dividend. 
Comment by goldens on Sep 01, 2021 1:09pm
I checked with IR and they are on track to announce by the end of the quarter as stated in the conference call. So whatever it is we will find out soon enough. GLTA Seeing some solid support in L2. Bids outnumber ask 3:1 as well
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