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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum ARC Resources Ltd T.ARX

Alternate Symbol(s):  AETUF

ARC Resources Ltd. is a Canadian energy company. It is focused on the exploration, development, and production of unconventional natural gas, condensate, natural gas liquids (NGLs), and crude oil in western Canada. Its operations are focused in the Montney region in Alberta and northeast British Columbia. Its operations in Alberta are located near Grande Prairie and the region includes Kakwa... see more

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ARC Resources Ltd > Share buybacks
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Post by MyHoneyPot on May 07, 2022 1:10pm

Share buybacks

Here is a link to the Peters Conference, Terry's statement regarding share value at mid cycle pricing, ARX considered the NAV of the shares to be $20 dollars, and this was represented as the compelling metric ARX management was using to justify the share buybacks. ( Time 6:40 )

Peters Conference Jan 18,2022

This share price on Jan 18, 2022 the day of this presentation, the share price was $13.87.

So the same arguement does not hold water for share buybacks today,  the shares have traded over 19 dollars which fully values and mid cycle NAV, they are no longer trading at Jan 18, 2022 when the shares were trading at $13.87. 

TOU is much smarter than ARX and understands this and that is why they are giving back Special Dividends, Arc is fully now fully valued from a mid cycle price perscpective, and buying back shares now you are putting shareholder capital at risk in this current high price commodity environment. 

I would also say that share buybacks simply adds additional risk especially in ARX case,
  • ARX have failed on adding any meaningful production growth
  • NE BC assets are at greater risk with an uncertain regulatory enviroment that exists today
So it is my believe that ARX management are gambling with share holder returns and they know it. Also i would say there is no quick fix for NE BC, and a incremental amount of risk associated with those assets. 

Arx management should stop the buyback, and invest in 1/2 cycle production grown, and meaningful dividends for the shareholders. By their own admission the ARX shares are fully valued in a mid cycle pricing enviroment, and with the inability to go forward with Attachie and Sunrise, you will have to determine for yourself, when those assets will be fully values, and in what commodity enviroment. A lot of risk and uncertainity. 

IMHO
Comment by Quintessential1 on May 07, 2022 1:53pm
Since instituting the NCIB in September 2021, ARC has repurchased 44.7 million common shares or approximately six per cent of total common shares outstanding at an average price of $12.38 per share for $553 million. I don't have problem with this, if you do, stop investing, although I can see why shorters would have a problem with this as it is kind of like the company ...more  
Comment by MyHoneyPot on May 07, 2022 2:15pm
I really don't care about you, because you are simply immoral and have nothing to contribute. I am sure you don't understand anything i post anyway, and when people post facts you just ignore them anyway, so you are unteachable.   So i really don't care what you think, because your a low life, really sick, go need to go and find some help. You should be ashames of yourself ...more  
Comment by Quintessential1 on May 07, 2022 2:25pm
Well I thought i was on ignore and being reported. That makes you a liar Mr Moral Compass No one can understand what you post it's mostly broken english jibberish. Here, I will make it easy for you: Buybacks good, shorter's no like. GLTA Longs
Comment by angelnicky on May 07, 2022 4:01pm
downgrades are coming ARX is a poor performer company hedged to prevent losses but with oil and gas at all time high, management still failed shareholders like you are a puppet to management Too scared to open your mouth as someone may shi?? in it. Have a nice week end 
Comment by Quintessential1 on May 07, 2022 6:27pm
Well, unlike your mom,  I don't like people's sh?? in my mouth. She, on the other hand, seems to treat her mouth like it is a toilet. My returns on this stock are beyond my wildest dreams for it. You nay-saying DBs can't push me off it or sour its past or future returns.   Trying to just means you're dumber than I thought you were. For those that are invested ...more  
Comment by Trapped on May 07, 2022 6:51pm
Way to go, Quint! Like you, I'm up massively on this name and it's only going to get better. I have no idea why the trolls spend so much time here. As far as AN goes, I could find better market analysis on the back of a cereal box. Such a waste of time.
Comment by angelnicky on May 07, 2022 10:27pm
Hey dic??? Hea? The Fed is tightening and that usually means recession, no matter what they say\, you are going to lose your investment clown have a nice week end with your familiy if you can
Comment by downwithdotcom1 on May 07, 2022 10:47pm
how to you spell M@RON???                 A-n-g-e-l-n-i-c-k-y.... And YES!!I am Have a relaxing great weekend..dwdc PS..sold 2k shares over $19, you know, the same shares that you and your alter ego have trolling since $7 ..why keep embaressing yourself?? maybe an AGENDA?? has to be-because nobody could  be this $tupid..
Comment by Trapped on May 08, 2022 6:59am
AN you're actually too dumb to be a good troll and you act like there's never been a recession before. It's actually not a very big deal. Very normal part of the business cycle and people's investments don't magically disappear when one happens. In fact, commodities often hold up a lot better than many sectors of the stock market. Why aren't you on any NASDAQ board ...more  
Comment by Quintessential1 on May 08, 2022 8:10am
Yeah, recession's are hard, for people without investments and money. Higher interest rates will be good for parking all those dividends we are going to recieve from ARX. Regardless of what the nay-sayers on this board espouse ARX just took all the hedging pain up front  for 2022, like smart businessmen, and the  next 3 quarters  they will have nothing but gravey. For anyone ...more  
Comment by angelnicky on May 08, 2022 11:22am
i am glad you are happy with your 8 cents increase when all other players are paying dollars Please don't spend it all at once at the parlor Have a nice weekend Quint with all of your friends if you have any
Comment by Quintessential1 on May 08, 2022 1:18pm
they all increased their yearly dividend by a dollar huh?  I bet you you can't show me one O&G payer that increased their yearly dividend by a dollar in Q2. I know you have lots of friends.  Its too bad they are all busy banging your mom. Well it is Mother's Day after all.   Did she speciffically ask to be spit roasted by your buddies? I guess someone has to ...more  
Comment by angelnicky on May 08, 2022 1:35pm
dont spend too much time at the parlor, you know what happen to Mr. Kraft, but your little div wont bail you out, should you get caught enjoy yourself as you are not the type to have any friends
Comment by Trapped on May 08, 2022 1:45pm
Hey troll, I know you're functionally illiterate but I don't think anyone has the slightest clue as to what you're talking about here. Just thought you should know. Try to enjoy your day...
Comment by GunnerG on May 07, 2022 3:14pm
Who is he talking to?
Comment by GunnerG on May 07, 2022 3:25pm
It is no longer Jan 18............things have changed with regards to pricing.  Even you should be able to figure that out. You bltch and moan about everything.  Move on if its so bad. Obviously you must have worked for Bibby in some form, you have quite a hate on.  Care to enlighten why you got the boot?  Given your communications skills, your not a professional of any sort. ...more  
Comment by MyHoneyPot on May 07, 2022 3:55pm
You don't understand, what Terry is saying is that the premise for the buyback was the NAV of the company/stock in a period of Mid Cycle commodity prices. ($20 dollars) So its exactly the same today, because there has been no meaningful production increase, so the $20 dollar NAV Terry talked about in January (Peters Video) would be the same today. However in January the stock traded at around ...more  
Comment by GunnerG on May 07, 2022 5:29pm
So you are telling me NAV wouldn't increase with a significant increase product prices?
Comment by MyHoneyPot on May 07, 2022 6:15pm
The Nav that justifies the share buyback is supported by a mid range commodity cycle price. Its kind of the same rational they is used to establish the regular dividend.  So the Nav is based on the Mid Range Commodity price that Arc recognizes. These current high prices likely will not last forever and their will be a pull back to a more mid range pricing enviroment, which justifies a stock ...more  
Comment by GunnerG on May 07, 2022 9:16pm
MHP you have no idea if Arc is currently buying back stocks.  The have announced possible buybacks if the price permits.  Just like other companies including TOU have. Geopolltical reasons are part of the reason for increases but I would offer that there is a large imbalance between supply and demand for NA natural gas.  Many like to quote Nutall and he, along with other analysts ...more  
Comment by MyHoneyPot on May 07, 2022 9:39pm
Well you will know, if they decide to provide a special dividend? If you listened to the Peters Video link, and the discussion between Terry and Peters Co regarding ARX's buy back strategy, buy back price, and projected NAV at mid cycle pricing. At the time they were doing those buybacks the share price was a lot cheaper, now with the share price closer to $19 dollars should they really be ...more  
Comment by GunnerG on May 07, 2022 10:06pm
Price $19 with some analysts predicting $27.  Only 42% plus divis, I would be alright with that. Mid cycle, how do you actually calculate when that is?  Nope, you can't.  Some are predicting $10+ price for NG.  Imagine what the share prices would be then.  $19 could be a cheap price in the future. If we had the crystal ball you appear to have, we could confirm your ...more  
Comment by GunnerG on May 07, 2022 8:58pm
Given your response, I will say NAV will increase but you don't want to say I am right. "So its exactly the same today" is a bit disingenuous on your part.   Also, I keep reminding you of your previous claims that the float is to high and our SP is way undervalued,  Good points to justify buybacks. Q1 average price $12.38 / share.  Isn't that about a 53 ...more  
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