Post by
SNAKEYBOY on Jan 23, 2023 10:13pm
Would be interesting to see
A list of canadian reits and their multiples. Its looking like Artis is the bottom of the rung, and at a significant margin at that!!!!!!!!!!!! Dream Office is even beating is 100% unloved office space, Slate Office too!
Comment by
CatchTheDip on Jan 23, 2023 10:21pm
Dream office is like 30-40% dream industrial at this market cap.
Comment by
Frankie10 on Jan 23, 2023 10:33pm
It's a cash flow machine. Pay down the debt and send it to the moon. I personally like the Dream Office ownership interest - downtown Toronto towers. Office construction will grind to a halt and existing properties will be converted into multi res until supply and demand adjust for the post-Covid world - downtown Toronto core will always be disirerable imho.
Comment by
CatchTheDip on Jan 23, 2023 10:37pm
Pretty much every Toronto Building they own is fully renovated as well. I may sell some of my well performing reits and double down on Dream Office.
Comment by
Reece1986b on Jan 23, 2023 11:01pm
I like to use this site to review cheap Canadian REITs: https://alreits.com/screener You can sort it by "Price/Earnings" which will give you the FFO/AFFO multiple at which the REITs trade. Most Canadian REITs trade at higher FFO multiples than Artis trades AFFO multiple.
Comment by
Reece1986b on Jan 24, 2023 10:43am
Not a problem! Thanks for all the stuff you've kindly shared and continue to share with everyone on these boards. Artis is green so far this morning. Only by a little so far but it's a welcomed change.
Comment by
SNAKEYBOY on Jan 24, 2023 10:46am
It can move up 10% in a week on a good Q4 report. Though the NCIB stopped has me worried they are going to release a ugly report than the manji/sandpiper and ncib will grab cheap shares...I hope I'm wrong cause I want to liquidate my margin sooner rather than later and have almsot 450k in artis...
Comment by
babybunny on Jan 24, 2023 3:07pm
The market is already discounting a shitty Q4 report and piss-poor governance ... so we are already scraping the bottom IMO. All we need is some scrap of good news to drive the unit price to $11 in an instant: a resumption of the NCIB, or an explanation of their recent investments in other REITs.
Comment by
SNAKEYBOY on Jan 24, 2023 3:08pm
I agree babybunny..the fact that they renewed 1 tranche of credit facility, sold 400 million at NAV didnt even make it budge. Thats insane!
Comment by
SNAKEYBOY on Jan 24, 2023 7:12pm
Like you said FrankieBoy, high rates aren't here to stay very long...maybe 1-2 years. It all be good