Bombardier Inc. T.BBD.A

RE:RE:As to spread between A's and B's

[tinou]

A logical explanation to why someone is stacking up A shares may be that this someone (the family?) wants to issue more B shares to get some play money.  This someone wants to protect his control before proceeding with the new B share issue?

[johnney]

tinou, what do you mean by new B share issue!

[Acuras1]

As far as I can see there's no equity left for new shares at this juncture unless additional capital is put in some sort of share restructure. It worked for BRP which at the time was a drag on other Bombardier operations.  That said, I would also hate to see a reverse split happen. I'm not predicting yet being realistic. I will venture a guess that who ever the "angel" that

[bicente]

I too believe there is an outside source ( non-family) that is going to come up with cash to lower the interest rates on the debt ... there are many out there who would like to get their hands on the bomber but the family won't let it go , trying to bug as many A's as possible could be a way to I fluency them into accepting a smaller role in the company going forward .. at the end of the

[Willy2k]

Time will tell jan 29 th right around the corner .

[johnney]

willy2k, we will here more on Q4 results, in FEB!

[Shamhorish]

""""That said, don't expect to see your current shares at $5 any time soon:)""" bbd.b at cdn $5.00!  yessssss i would say, if they do not hit us with third and 4th wave of Covid if trump does not ignit a war in the middle east before leaving office i.e if we get back close to normal life, we may see bbd.b at or above in 2-3 years tht is my guess

[johnney]

Shamhorish, i think second wave that we,re in now is enough! a third or fourth wave of covid several company's will be out of the map!

[johnney]

Shamhorish, i never thought one minute that a big company like this known all over the world, would take a hit like this, honestly never!

[HopefulJuan]

BBD needs to partner with a first nation. If they can be in the pipeline or fishing business, why not planes

[Willy2k]

 im hoping  once the deal is done in late jan  debt will be down and then maybe they can get intrest rates on the balances  . wishful thinking  but in these trying times  all  we can do is be postive .   just my thoughts 

[johnney]

Willy2k, hope that once the alstom deal closed, that they will put the whole money into the debt, not just a part of it. cause if not the case, won't look good at all for 2021, IMO!

[johnney]

Willy2k, will see if ERIC Martel will do it, putting the whole money of the Alstom deal, in Jan.2021, on their debt! 

[clubhouse19]

As I mentioned earlier...anyone putting a 70 % premium just to buy the A shers where the only difference is the voting rights...looks to me not to be more complicated than that . If that divergence stays as is...something is coming up whre that voting leverage will be used ...by whom is the question !!

[clubhouse19]

One other thing that may be to consider... As we have seen, the shares were trading at 30-50 cents for months... Could that have been used by some entitities to accumulate B shares that when combined with the 10-1 voting rights that have been accumulated by buying A shares may just be enough to tilt the pendulum agains the family ??   IMO somehting is in the works that may comincide with the

[bicente]

I see it differently , I think the buying is being done from the outside entity( or whoever is coming up with the cheap financing) in order to have the " possibility of control " over the family ... I believe that the family came up with this idea in order to be able to tell the investing community that the family no longer controls the voting " if X amount of votes " is added

[clubhouse19]

Bicente I have been saying the same from the first post on the subject. As I mentioned, the entities buying may be trying to swing the pendulum against the family..whether they are acquiesing or not  is another issue and they just not want to put up a battle in other words./

[bicente]

I think it is an entity that is working WITH the family and not against the family , I believe it is an entity that is being placed there by the family  ... the reason I say this is because no one ( that matters) seems to be worried about losing control ...there would have been much more buying if it was a takeover trying to be started , the buying would have spiked the "b"s much

[Acuras1]

Your point makes sense the only problem is given the family already owns a massive amount of voting power with 80% + of outstanding A shares (about 250 million shares). This 80% + percentage of power in and of itself gives the family so much voting leverage that even if an outside entity purchased all other outstanding A shares (about 60 million) AND said outside entity purchased even 80% of the

[johnney]

Shamhorish, i do beleive so, if no third or 4th wave covid hit us, and delivery on time, with low intersts to be paid on the remaing debt, $5 not impossible to be reached in 2 or 3 years, and this of course if i,m still alive!

[HopefulJuan]

Current price to sales ratio is .1. Assumiing worst case revenue of $5B as only BA and a very modest price to sales ratio of 4 puts the share price over $8. Very justifiable at that point. 

[Joly1992]

Expectations for this weeks SP?

[HopefulJuan]

Tesla halts production. Shares soar.

[johnney]

joly1992,that's a $50k question, how much it will be this week!

[johnney]

HopefullJuan, Share price over $8. impossible, and won't happen either!

[HopefulJuan]

No kidding and it sounds crazy but the sales are there. Nio @ $46 US is crazier without the sales. BBD needs to show earnings. Thinking the new CFO will help as well. Curious if being in a BLOC riding hurts and if the MP has anything to say about the manipulation. Today again. I never hear a word.

[johnney]

HopefuJuan, you got the right word, they need to show earnings, and not just 1 or 2 Quarters, and no more late deliverys and false promises as Bellemarre has said in the past There is no more room for lies with one division left, no room left!

[johnney]

hopefulJuan, said over $8 dollars, when i think about it, maybe when a reverse split 10for1, it may reach over $8 !!!!!!!

[Willy2k]

Johnney why do you think it might be a split ? Is it b to a your thinking ? Everytime companies do a split the shareholder gets facked

[balmusette]

When they do a split, it is good news for shareholders. when they do a reverse split , shareholders get  facked.

[johnney]

willy2k, why a reverse split, not talking this year, why because first of all there is 2.1B sahres out of B, the second one price too low, and if somme big investors wan'ts to invest in, but us we don't hear about before it,s done, they simply ask reverse split your shares 5, or 10for on and after we will get in, and start new again! I don't know how many times iseen this before on

[johnney]

willy2k, the main reason is to get rid of the shareholders, new shareholders gets in after, cause very much shares outstanding left! But it won't happen while some of the company has given stock options and rights at $0.30 in nov this year, for over 35M shares, won,t be done while still having their options, once they exercise their options, and we will know much later, when there could be a