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Bullboard - Stock Discussion Forum Bombardier Inc. T.BBD.A

Alternate Symbol(s):  BDRPF | T.BBD.PR.B | BDRXF | T.BBD.PR.C | T.BBD.PR.D | BOMBF | BDRAF | T.BBD.B | BDRBF

Bombardier Inc. is a Canada-based manufacturer of business aircraft with a global network of service centers. The Company is focused on designing, manufacturing and servicing business jets. The Company has a worldwide fleet of more than 5,000 aircraft in service with a variety of multinational corporations, charter and fractional ownership providers, governments and private individuals. It... see more

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Bombardier Inc. > could The Bomber still back out of the deal
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Post by zax10001 on Dec 16, 2020 2:12pm

could The Bomber still back out of the deal

If Alstrom doesn't want to play ball and pay a premium for all these new contracts that the Bomber is getting in the 4rth quarter.
I wonder if the Bomber could still back out of the deal with Alstrom for a measly $79 million.
What do you think would happen to the share price if the Bomber pulled the pin on it.

Zax
Comment by Shamhorish on Dec 16, 2020 3:59pm
Good Question i hope they can do it i hope they will ba Allowed to do it (in my opinion gov will not allow it, cdpq will not allow it) if bbd have the finances, and can walk away from that deal, it will be a big wion for us
Comment by Bottoms on Dec 16, 2020 4:55pm
I'm thinking the bomber needs to keep enough of the BT sale proceeds to pay off all debt outstanding in 2021/2022 but they will have some excess cash on hand since they won't be paying back future debt owings right away. They should take that money and use it to buy back the Caisse portion of BT as the deal is closed (may have to be financed on an overnight deal contingent on BT sale ...more  
Comment by johnney on Dec 16, 2020 5:11pm
Bottoms how can we explain this, BT sale proceeds, when it's been written off their books after Q3! Someone here has answer for this!
Comment by Bottoms on Dec 16, 2020 5:41pm
I'm talking about the sale of BT. Not the trains, the division.
Comment by johnney on Dec 16, 2020 5:48pm
Bottoms, BT has been sold, do you get that!
Comment by Bottoms on Dec 16, 2020 6:03pm
Johnney, if you can't understand the logic in my post, please refrain from refuting it. BT has been sold. The bomber has not received the sale proceeds yet. The bomber still has the legal right to buy back the Caisse before the deal closes. This would result in the Bomber receiving the BT sale proceeds previously allocated to the Caisse. Bomber would be left with less cash from the BT sale but ...more  
Comment by johnney on Dec 16, 2020 6:08pm
Bottoms, and how will they reduce their $9.3B debt!
Comment by Bottoms on Dec 16, 2020 6:13pm
They will have the money for 2021 and 2022 debt dues. The issue comes up in 2023 which is when refinancing will be needed to survive. They won't pay 2023 dues in 2021, the penalty makes it not worth it. Better off having that money work for the bomber by owning a huge chunk of Alstom. Alstom shares will provide the upside the Bomber lacks to renegotiate its debt from a stronger standpoint ...more  
Comment by HopefulJuan on Dec 17, 2020 6:16am
The new CFO needs to reduce finance charges. He was brought in for that reason.
Comment by johnney on Dec 17, 2020 12:17pm
Not only reduce finance charges, but to negociate at lower interests for their remaining debt, not to pay what their paying now, cause even if left with $4, or $5B left, won't make it with the high interests that their paying now!
Comment by raphaelle2 on Dec 16, 2020 6:19pm
No wont happen. EM said many times that BT proceed is for paying debt.They are working on another deal to restructure their capital base.
Comment by johnney on Dec 16, 2020 6:29pm
raphalle2, that's what i read and understood too from EM, unless he comes out with a different story by then!
Comment by HopefulJuan on Dec 17, 2020 6:13am
I like the idea of buying the CDPQ shares in all BBD related dealings. Caisse has no expertise in manufacturing. Money has allowed them to be so influential. They have no business trying to be something they are not. And they should finance the transaction at a proper low interest rate.  
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